 NOCASH
Male, 18-29, Canada
 401 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 4:05:23 PM
If you intend to kill a home invader im sure any gun will do the job just fine, my 2 cents. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16983 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:59:25 PM
Why do you need a semi-automatic to protect your home?
@Canoas: Because it's LEGAL?
Who are YOU to tell other what they ARE or ARE NOT "allowed" to own?
Are you going to ban "stamp collecting" next? Because all that money could be better spent feeding starving children!
You claim "it's not necessary" but that's YOUR opinion. Why are you shoving YOUR opinion on others against their will? It's that considered "rude" anymore? |
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 nettech98
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
835 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:57:21 PM
Best weapon for home defense is a pump action shotgun with appropriate shot.
1. Shot won't penetrate walls and doors like a handgun or rifle round so you're less likely to kill your family or neighbors.
2. You're more likely to hit your target.
3. The 'click-click' of chambering the first round is a great deterrent... |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:56:58 PM
Unless I'm mistaken: it shoots the exact same round as the AR-15. Is it going to be banned too? Will ALL .223 guns be banned? For what, being popular?
SHHHH justz da ebil rifelz!!! |
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 MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:56:30 PM
Marc Lepine killed 14 women in Canada in 1989 with a LEGALLY OWNED Riger Mini-14
Unless I'm mistaken: it shoots the exact same round as the AR-15. Is it going to be banned too? Will ALL .223 guns be banned? For what...
I think you answered your own question with that preamble, 5Cats. Even as someone that enjoyed being a squaddie in my youth, I've no wish to see guns in civvy street. There's just no place for them there. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:54:49 PM
@whodat6484
Ya Springfield are hard to come by ODCMP had some ages ago when I got the M1 but I'm old lol.......... |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16983 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:51:09 PM
What a piece-of-crap article!
It blathers on about nothing, says nothing and in conclusion? BAN GUNS!
Marc Lepine killed 14 women in Canada in 1989 with a LEGALLY OWNED Riger Mini-14
Unless I'm mistaken: it shoots the exact same round as the AR-15. Is it going to be banned too? Will ALL .223 guns be banned? For what, being popular?
As always: the "ban guns" side throws emotional gernades and claims they are facts. Pityful, pathertic even. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:49:43 PM
Quit reading after the writer wrote this, "Its standard .223 caliber ammunition doesn’t offer much stopping power for anything other than small game."
Evidently he doesn't believe round that is lethal to human beings is also lethal to deer, bear, elk, moose, etc... which is total bullsh|t.
Once again, just because it appears to be a 'scary looking', 'military style' weapon doesn't mean it functions like one. The mass hysteria about about guns needs to end, stop the liberal scaremongering. |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:46:49 PM
I'll be good just me AR show me your ARs guys!!
This is me and the chaps back in the day. I'm on the top right wearing pilot gloves to protect my delicate little hands. :D Most of us have M16A2s (which still to this day get called Armalites in the British Army, where you guys over the pond also get the AR15 designation from). The chap in the middle centre has a Minimi:
God that photo dates me. It was taken nearly twenty years ago. :/ |
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 whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2267 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:44:21 PM
M1 Garand, that's a beauty, a friend of mine who owns the property upstate where we go to shoot has one of those! I've been looking at getting a M1903 Springfield but they don't come cheap, at least the ones in good shape aren't cheap. |
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whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2267 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:38:29 PM
@Canoas - I already stated why he's wrong. We're talking about AR-15's that are legal to own and use, therefore they are semi-auto. Once modified, they are illegal and if you truly want to modify the weapon to be automatic as well as safe (won't blow up in your face) and reliable (will still fire accurately and not continually jam) then it's not really as "easy" as you think. |
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 ForSquirel
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
1006 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:36:35 PM
Wow, love the whole bump fire == full auto argument.. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:35:32 PM
A marine will probably like this one too getting historical a bit.....
real fun to shoot but ammo prices for it are a kick in the nuts. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:28:16 PM
Where's this link??? |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:26:05 PM
@whodat6484
LOL! Semper Fidelis carry on. |
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 Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
422 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:25:53 PM
@whodat
whether you've read his comment or not doesn't change the fact that the gun in question is easily modifiable into a full-automatic weapon.
Instead of saying you've read it why don't you try saying why he's wrong? |
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Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
422 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:24:00 PM
@lungcancerz
Your argument was that each person is entitled to whatever weapon they see fit to protect themselves or just have fun with it, but now you're saying there's a limit?
Good, I agree with that, and that limit should not include semi-automatic rifles.
Why do you need a semi-automatic to protect your home? It actually takes longer to point and is much more visible, so they'll kill you before you're ready to shoot.
But do you know what a semi-automatic is useful for? Breaking into other people's homes and ensuring they can't protect themselves.
A semi-automatics gives law abiding citizens a huge disavantage against criminals. |
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whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2267 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:23:58 PM
I already read that comment. Try another one instead of using the "copy & paste" function. |
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 lungcancerz
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
16 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:23:26 PM
mmm smagboy1 the no nothing no-it-all. is your name short for small bag boy or is smag actually a misspelling of smeg which is a name for ball cheese. are you just ball cheese boy the first |
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 SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2748 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:15:27 PM
No, whodat6484, I know exactly what it is, and I know exactly how easily an AR-15 can be "altered" (or, shall we say, "fixed") to make it fully automatic. Which is what they're made to be and what they are save for a small adjustment (I've already posted a link). I'm not nearly as stupid as you assume I am. |
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lungcancerz
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
16 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:15:23 PM
@canoas wow, big jump from an AR to a nuclear weapons. but then i guess in an anti-gun nut's eyes they are the same thing. An Ar is something i can currently legally own and have as a hobby. never have i or anyone else been able to buy a nuclear bomb legally as a private citizen. to expensive, difficult to handle etc. however home defense does not just include defense from criminals but also defending yourself from a corrupt government. a government should be afraid of its people not vice versa |
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whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2267 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:14:33 PM
@SmagBoy1 - Well, we're not talking about "altered" AR-15's, are we? We're talking about semi-automatic AR-15's that are legal and sold commercially. Once it's altered by the owner it's no longer legal to own depending on what state you live in.
@McGovern1981 - Yeah, that's what we called them when we started getting them. Ghetto-grip sounds way better than 'foregrip' as they call it. Usually every piece of gear that is issued to Marines, sailors & soldiers either already has a ridiculous nickname or soon gets one. |
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randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
779 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:08:12 PM
Note that the article suggests that a handgun is more useful for home defence. There are circumstances in which an AR-15 would be more useful, but if you only have one firearm then yes, a handgun is probably the better choice.
However that is not very good for Slate's case for legislation to prevent gun crime. Rifles are used less often in murders in America than hammers and clubs; they are used less often than brute force with no weapon.
For the same reason they are better for self-defence, handguns are most used for nefarious purposes. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10257 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:04:22 PM
@SmagBoy1
Are you talking about a bump firing stock? That's very impractical you won't hit anything unless u get lucky. Other ways well I don't know them but I'll bet they aren't legal. |
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SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2748 Posts
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Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:58:41 PM
McGovern, if you buy an AR-15 and don't make it fully automatic, that's on you. But let's not pretend that that's exactly what everyone does. And easily. Lamborghini sells cars here in the US with "limiters" installed to make them street legal here. Are you going to call that car a family sedan because it's been limited? Or are you simply going to remove the limiter and call it what it is. Whatever. |
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