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Is God a Mathematician?

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paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1706 Posts
Saturday, January 05, 2013 12:12:27 PM
photomstr theoretical physicists do it a lot. It's not god as you may understand it... i think it stems from the facts that basically math is the cumulative total of human's pure reasoning (internal), there is no explanation why that should coincide with anything physical (external), but it does, very well. Hence there is a omnipotent overarching law of sorts, and that is best encapsulated in the word god.

photomstr
Male, 50-59, Canada
 767 Posts
Saturday, January 05, 2013 3:56:52 AM
I cannot believe such an intelligent man would even use "god" in a sentence. People! There are no gods, alien ufos, ghosts or bigfoot!
Grow up and face reality, the universe is a big place and we are but stardust . . .

Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3672 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:15:01 PM
Thank you Lissy. And I would tend to agree with you Silver - but I think the public having a grasp of it that is at least equivalent to their understanding of E=mc2 (beyond Einstein sticking his tongue out), would still be preferable to nothing. I'd rather they not be assuming that I'm talking about quilts (or the World's newest villain - the Knitter).

SilverThread
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3368 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:10:01 PM
If you think you understand string theory, then you don't understand string theory.

whipplefunk
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 661 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:25:04 PM
stimulating

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6401 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 6:17:57 PM
elderban:
New IAB rule: no comments from people who never went to high school.

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2580 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:45:02 PM
"This guy kicks degrasse's ass."

Amen to that.


Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3672 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:31:33 PM
This guy kicks degrasse's ass.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5713 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:59:01 PM
Why do scientists have to attach numbers to everything?

The numbers are already attached, we are just finding more of the attachments as we go.

Furthermore, when dark matter/energy is factored into their "equations", the answer they come up with is "infinity times infinity".

This is nonsense.

sunday_scour
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 274 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:53:10 PM
@elderban: To which equations are you referring? Dark matter vastly exceeds normal matter, but it interacts very weakly (seldomly) with normal matter, though because of the large ammount of it clustered together its gravitational force can be measured (by the bending of light.) Dark energy, however, is completely different. It accounts for most of the mass/energy (E=MC^2) in the universe and is pushing everything away from everything else at an ever-increasing rate. It may, ultimately, become strong enough, in trillions of years, to rip apart atoms. Or it may not. This is the current leading edge of research. Finally, infinity times infinity is a valid operation (=infinity), but the errors in equations that popup in certain calculations (Einstein + quantum mechanics = error) are like a greater than 100% probability of something, or division by zero. Hope this helps. ;)

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2490 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:51:44 PM
@Quackor: I feel the exact same way about Michio Kaku.

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2490 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:50:34 PM
I wasn't going to comment anything until I read what people were saying ... now I'm even less inclined to discuss physics.

I will say however, that it bugs me a lot when scientists use the word "god" to loosely refer to natural phenomena or personal convictions, if nothing else because it helps religious zealots misquote them when fighting to impose their ignorant creed upon education.

elderban
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 383 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:15:04 PM
@mamba: Scientists have even admitted that the laws of physics that apply to us here on Earth don't apply everywhere.

Furthermore, when dark matter/energy is factored into their "equations", the answer they come up with is "infinity times infinity". Further proof that there's no absolute mathematical "answer" to the universe.

It's all random chaos. Just like the fact that you were the one of the ~250,000,000 sperm that made it to the egg.

jonswan12
Male, 18-29, Western US
 71 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 12:01:36 PM
Better question: Is that man Jimmy Page?

Quackor
Male, 18-29, S. America
 2864 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:13:31 AM
@chalket
I count 2 now with you, may god be with you!
wait, its 3 now!

mamba
Male, 18-29, Europe
 618 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:57:24 AM
'Why do scientists have to attach numbers to everything? Is it some form of OCD? The Universe is based on chaos, and nothing else. There's no mathematical solution to everything. And, furthermore, the "laws" that apply here do not apply everywhere in the universe.'


Ok, come on, this has got to be a troll.

klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
 647 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:47:56 AM
Gerry, you can't explain that, tide goes in, tide goes out

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:31:26 AM

"Why do scientists have to attach numbers to everything?"
If you can't express it in numbers, it's not "science" it's "philosophy".

"Except the moon is moving away from Earth whilst the apple falls to Earth. How can the same law apply?"
You did not just ask that question!?

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:19:21 AM
@dm2754: prove it, cite your source, do something to show you're not really that ignorant.

@drawman61: do a bit of research. Both the apple and the moon are falling toward Earth. The Earth spins (24 hrs) faster than the moon's orbit (27.3 days) thus the earth is very slowly transferring it's rotational energy to the moon, which results in a very slight increase to the moon's orbit (about 3.8 centimeters per year). It is, however, still falling towards the earth.

@elderban: Though that is theoretically possible, there is no evidence that physical so-called "universal" laws do not apply everywhere in the universe and much evidence to the contrary. We will never know for sure.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:19:08 AM
@Gerry: For all I know, it might taste like chocolate.

@Quackor: There was nothing "stupid" in that video, perhaps you are talking about yourself?

@ajd121: How on earth did you reach that ignorant conclusion?

@TheGuySmiley: Einstein also said, "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions... I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

SnoopyBG
Male, 18-29, Europe
 648 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:17:32 AM
see, there is a god.

elderban
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 383 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:51:52 AM
Why do scientists have to attach numbers to everything? Is it some form of OCD? The Universe is based on chaos, and nothing else. There's no mathematical solution to everything. And, furthermore, the "laws" that apply here do not apply everywhere in the universe.

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 5824 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:31:58 AM
Except the moon is moving away from Earth whilst the apple falls to Earth. How can the same law apply?

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3122 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:25:51 AM
string theory is BS

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Thursday, January 03, 2013 9:08:03 AM
Well Einstein did say "science without religion is lame, and religion without science is blind".

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