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Best Argument Against Rape Excuse [Pic]

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UDUMASS
Male, 30-39, Canada
 61 Posts
Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:24:38 AM
This whole thing is akin to walking through a bad neighborhood wearing all the bling you can handle. If you get mugged, it's still the mugger's fault that he mugged you, but you weren't exactly trying to prevent it, were you?

pompousass7
Male, 40-49, Canada
 261 Posts
Monday, December 31, 2012 7:21:35 AM
her poster makes no sense

ByOwlPost
Female, 18-29, Western US
 520 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 5:49:44 PM
Okay, what is the point of spilling one's boobs out of the front of their shirt? This is unrelated to the rape debate.

Discuss:

spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1247 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 2:05:04 PM
Although the rapists are to blame, they exist and will do what they do, you can't reason with them or the compulsion they have, rapists know it's wrong, it's likely part of the drive for them to do it. However a woman, or a man for that matter can take steps to reduce drastically, the chances of becoming a victim. It's like the first lines of self defence, awareness, education and avoidance, these things can have an effect, waving pointless posters which state the obvious won't.

DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3884 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:15:45 PM
UGH THIS IS A F*CKING STRAWMAN.

Nobody actually thinks people deserve to get raped for wearing revealing clothes. It's like going into a bad area of a city with really nice clothes and designer sunglasses or something. It's a bad idea, and you're increasing the likelihood that people will mug you.

It's still the mugger's fault. It's still the rapist's fault. But you can't control the criminal, otherwise the crime wouldn't happen. You can only control yourself.

Magentab0b
Female, 30-39, Western US
 1461 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 12:10:51 PM
What's weird is this generalization that men who argue it's woman's fault about rape don't take into account how many men are raped by men. How many men are raped by women. How many men and women rape children. So they block these protective measures that could cover the whole blanket of society that needs helps. And we have a culture that says being a victim is shameful!

I refuse to post facts as they might make my unintelligible argument invalid.

Magentab0b
Female, 30-39, Western US
 1461 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 11:55:28 AM
@ Gerry1of1: "So, is dressing provocatively just that...to provoke?"

Yes. But that doesn't automatically give a person permission to act on that.

Having a gun doesn't mean I am allowed to shoot it anytime, anywhere. People have been arrested for showing or just reaching for their piece.

PopCap
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 489 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 10:52:15 AM
"Blaming clothing for causing rape is as idiotic as blaming guns for causing murder."

That's it, in a nutshell.

That being said, if you walk up to a nutcase with a gun, tell him he's a nutcase and talk ill of his mom... Blam. Wrong place, wrong time. Same thing with rape. If you go to a place where predators are waiting for prey (bar, frathouse, club, etc.) and you dress provocatively and get drunk. Blam. Wrong place, wrong time. It's not that the rapist is less guilty, it's that the victim went into the lion's den. That's a stupid thing to do considering the weak laws and predatory culture that has been around for decades.

Zed68
Male, 40-49, Europe
 839 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 10:12:37 AM
"When 14 year olds wear two piece swimsuits, and old men stare.. They're looking at a young fertile form, it's a biological response."

yeasss... it's exactly what happens when 6 men rape a student in a bus (and kill her)... they want her to have their babies...

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4174 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 3:49:26 AM
See, it's all the fault of women. Women are responsible for ensuring that men can control themselves. Women are responsible for men eating apples. Women are responsible for dressing correctly to ensure that men don't become too aroused, because men can't control themselves.

Yeah, that makes total sense. For the religious right, Taliban and rapists.

Reignblazer
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2175 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 3:18:25 AM
Rape..is wrong.

But poo like this is being part of the problem.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:43:46 PM

"To dress in an attractive manner.. It is called attractive"

So, is dressing provocatively just that...to provoke?
I'm just askin, don't throw things

Evil_Eye
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1448 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 10:23:13 PM
@ByOwlPost: (3) If you really want to do it, do it in a area you know is safe and keep safe company at all times.

Everyone knows how girls react when you tell them how to dress. If they really want to, you are not going to stop it. Just make sure they know the risks, you know where they are going and their friends are with them.

ByOwlPost
Female, 18-29, Western US
 520 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:18:19 PM
(1)
To dress in an attractive manner.. It is called attractive, but it's not okay when males we are not interested in are attracted? It's not selectively attractive.

Many women feel good dressing up in attractive clothes, they can feel a sense of confidence from dressing attractively, but what does that confidence come from? People treat women and men differently when we are seen as attractive, doesn't that stem from a chemical biological reaction from the drive to reproduce?

When 14 year olds wear two piece swimsuits, and old men stare.. They're looking at a young fertile form, it's a biological response. We can protect our children by showing them not to flaunt their attractiveness until they are ready to want and cope with the attraction

ByOwlPost
Female, 18-29, Western US
 520 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:17:52 PM
(2)
It's not okay for people to forcibly take something they are attracted to, but it isn't very respectful to send out heavy signals in an environment that you don't intent to be attracting in.

There is a difference between being pretty and being attractive.. Children and women can show they are pretty without needing to dress "attractively". All women have a right to be pretty, but being attractive should be used responsibly.

Evil_Eye
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1448 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:17:17 PM
But... some people do hit people who makes provoking comments. It can even be a valid excuse sometimes in court, that can effect the sentence. This doesn't work as a argument!

Intentional rape is inexcusable. Yes it is possible to reduce yourself as a target by playing safe (clothing/location/company), but it shouldn't effect the sentence.

Fancysucksss
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1051 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:13:32 PM
I don't get it? Doing that would be pretty indecent of her :/

smaus
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 679 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:37:01 PM
eye candy is just that... candy for the eyes

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:23:10 PM

No, SPrinkZ, I am making sense. The statement in question does not release men from blame in the act of rape, or excuse their actions. It just asks the question of a womans culpability in said circumstance.

Again, I am not making statements one way or the other, I'm clarifying what I said earlier. And clarifying what the relevance of statements about a womans clothing choice is. NOT validity of the arguement, just the relevance of the statement.


dirtysteve00
Male, 30-39, Europe
 375 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:13:24 PM
Surely it's not the rapist's stupidity that would provoke her to violence, but rather that he's a rapist?

Either way, I don't see that chick as a major threat to rapists.

SilverThread
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3367 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:08:10 PM
Blaming clothing for causing rape is as idiotic as blaming guns for causing murder.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:36:58 PM
Apparently there is an argument for rape--that men create.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:36:32 PM
Gerry...you don't get it. You are literally making 0 sense.

SCfan
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 1898 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:36:28 PM
I didn't know there was an argument for rape.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 6:08:08 PM

It is not the clothes provoking the guy into rape.
They totally miss the point of the statement.

And before you feminazi's attacke, I did not say that I agree with the statement, nor did I make the statement. I'm just sayin' the girl in the photo didn't get it.

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