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Concealed Carry Permit Holders Vs Real Life

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IABuser33
Male, 18-29, Canada
 14 Posts
Friday, January 04, 2013 3:28:32 PM
How convenient that the intruder knows exactly who has the weapon therefor can aim at the correct person right away, If it were an attack the shooter would have no clue who did and did not have a gun. biased BS, Not That I am for concealed weapons

Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
 506 Posts
Sunday, December 30, 2012 9:58:19 AM
@cityncolour, wasn't saying it was anything other than an opion, I agree fully that trying to take anything meaningful from this 'experiment' is not worth the effort.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14791 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:28:48 PM
the guy rushes in and shoots the person with the concealed gun right away.

You obviously don't know the definition of the word "concealed." Allow me to educate you:

Con'cealed" adj. Hidden; kept from sight.

So, is your shooter psychic?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14791 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 8:24:39 PM
This is America. We don't arm our teachers.

I know, this is why our children are being slaughtered.

And I'll bet your brother f***s women, but that doesn't make you any less gay.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10317 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:31:49 PM
teacher if she chooses arm herself


"he/she" and "him/herself"

fix'd

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10317 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 7:28:03 PM
Yes Crakrjak that was a great retort that had absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.


For one thing, it should be up to the teacher if she chooses arm herself. Secondly, do you honestly believe an armed teacher is going to be a significantly greater threat to their students?

tatripp
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1201 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 5:05:14 PM
the guy rushes in and shoots the person with the concealed gun right away. If you are in a room full of people wearing overly baggy white t shirts and you target the only one who has the gun, of course you will shoot him before he shoots you.

I think guns are far more useful in homes as last resort weapons or in certain situations like a mugging.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:47:38 PM
Yes Crakrjak that was a great retort that had absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.

cityncolour
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 379 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:09:43 PM
@Finker
that isn't an observation it's an opinion. just like the video said, in high stress situations you get tunnel vision and an untrained gunman (which most are) would likely fall to the same tendency. Additionally, i think it would be safe to assume that such a gunman would not expect to find someone shooting back at him, in this scenario, not only did he expect it, but he knew where it would be coming from. the only "evidence" you could take away from this "experiment" is the chaos reactions and the tunnel vision effect... which i think are pretty well understood at this point.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17299 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 11:03:00 AM
Cajun: Great retort.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10317 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 1:32:27 AM
We are the land of the free not the paranoid.


Right which is why we shouldn't be freaking out over gun owners.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:51:44 AM
"I know you're wrong, and I've never heard of Larry Pratt."

Right. What is that your fifth lie in a row? A self proclaimed Fox New junky doesn't know who Larry Pratt is yet parrots his every word.

"Your hysterical and irrational fear of guns notwithstanding..."

Where are you getting this from? My liberal brother owns a .357 magnum and a shotgun. I've gone into the mountains with him to shoot quite a few times. No wonder you have such an irrational hatred of liberals, you project things onto them that just aren't true.

"...we know EXACTLY what happens when teachers and staff are DISarmed."

This is America. We don't arm our teachers. We are the land of the free not the paranoid.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14791 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 11:53:11 PM
Ha ha. You know I'm right. You are just parroting Larry Pratt.

I know you're wrong, and I've never heard of Larry Pratt.

Your hysterical and irrational fear of guns notwithstanding, we know EXACTLY what happens when teachers and staff are DISarmed.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 10:56:21 PM
"That's your response? How pathetic. I will take your ad hominem attack as your forfeiture of the argument and your declaration of intellectual bankruptcy."

Ha ha. You know I'm right. You are just parroting Larry Pratt.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 10:54:51 PM
A cop was overpowered today and had his gun taken away. The last thing we need to do is make guns more available to kids by arming teachers. I'm all for cops at schools if the districts can afford them but arming teachers is insane. It can not happen.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14791 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 10:53:57 PM
That's your response? How pathetic. I will take your ad hominem attack as your forfeiture of the argument and your declaration of intellectual bankruptcy.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 10:47:15 PM
You are so unoriginal that not only is your whole insane idea of arming teachers someone else's. You also use the same guys "blood on your hands" line to try and insult people. And who is this guy you are so mindlessly parroting? Why it's Larry Pratt the biggest gun lobbyist in America. His whole goal is to sell more guns. That is it nothing else. He is like a lobbyist for big tobacco who would recommending more cigarettes as a solution to fight cancer.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14791 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 10:27:11 PM
There was an armed police office assigned to Columbine. That school was not a gun free zone.

Every single school shooting has taken place in a gun-free zone. That's an indisputable fact. Police officers are allowed to carry guns in gun-free zones. One officer cannot do the same job of protecting students as could dozens of armed teachers and staff. I think that was pretty well proven.


"Excuse me, officer, where's the bathroom?"

"Oh, you go right down this hall and take a..."

"BANG!"

"Gee, thanks, officer. Now I have 20 minutes to kill as many kids as possible till your friends show up."


You'll just have to excuse me if I get a bit churlish at people like you, who by advocating the establishment of these gun-free slaughterhouses are largely responsible for these mass shootings. A good amount of this blood is on your hands.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 9:58:54 PM
Whatever OldOllie. There was an armed police office assigned to Columbine. That school was not a gun free zone. The officer frequently walked the halls armed. If you are going to get this mad every time you are caught in a lie maybe you should be more honest.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14791 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 9:52:06 PM
How many of these people carrying weapons to 'protect' will BECOME the shooter?

So far, almost none. CCW holders are about 260 times LESS likely to commit a murder than the general population. There is also little if any evidence that the CCW permits were a contributing factor.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14791 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 9:43:10 PM
What I was clearly responding to was OldOllies constant lie that all school shootings have taken place in gun free zones.

markust, it's the absolute truth, and you're a lying sack of $#!+.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 9:40:31 PM
"It's convenient that the "Shooter" is a trained firearms instructor."

I don't think it is a fair representation either. The shooter is usually more trained than the police for what they are about to do. Most train for months and sometimes more than a year for their killing spree. Plus they cary a semi-automatic instead of a pistol. It was a little lame of them to put the armed person in the same spot though. It raises suspicion that the shooters knew who had the gun. Or it could just be that a still target is more attractive than a running one. I think they did show a fair representation of how we may not be the hero we expect to be in the moment. From some of the comments I think that freaked people out a bit and they are over stating things. Let's hope we'll never have to find out how we will react.

CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 5262 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 9:35:43 PM
Silver
Squirel
Cajun
This IS what it's like and the bad guy IS the instructor from the CCW course.

This is how real people react in real danger.
Guy bursts into the room:
BadGuy: "Look, I told you to stay away from my wife!!" *BAMB!!! BAMB!!! BAMB!!!*

The time between "wife" and the third shot is .9 seconds.

What they didn't highlight is the bad guy, the CCW INSTRUCTOR, isn't hitting much either!
He aimed for Daniel's chest, fired three shots and hit the top of her mask once.
She aimed for his head, fired three shot and hit him in the d*ck once.

I especially like how the third guy's hand never left the f*cking desk!!
XD!!!

SilverThread
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3369 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 8:36:02 PM
It's convenient that the "Shooter" is a trained firearms instructor. Let's change it up a bit and have a olunteer off the street play the role of shooter and arm a percentage of people in the room rather than have a single novice face off against one or more professionals.

If my options are to run away screaming, cower and be executed, or try, however feeble my attempt may seem, to fight back, I will choose to fight. If nothing else, I may save the life of another by drawing the gunman's attention for a moment and catching a few bullets.

ForSquirel
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1721 Posts
Friday, December 28, 2012 8:13:06 PM
once again someone posts a bullpoo video.. this is nowhere near 'real life'

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