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 Xprez
Male, 30-39, Western US
 282 Posts
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Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:13:01 PM
The guns were registered to her...... |
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 MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2321 Posts
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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:20:24 AM
shaustin-" where's your "statistic" on america"
Try to follow the conversation.
SmagBoy1 stated ' if the guns aren't available, as in Australia, Germany, Japan, China'.
So I found the statistics for THOSE COUNTRIES HE NAMED as having no guns available that cleary proved that yes, indeed, there are many guns available.
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2321 Posts
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Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:19:26 AM
shaustin-" YOU ARE OBSOLETE"
YOU are delusional.
shaustin-"you can't just state a bunch of random facts without any proof or sources "
Why cite? If it doesn't meet with your pre-conceived bias you'll just discount it anyway.
But for your viewing pleasure:
Australia
Germany
Japan
China |
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 shaustin
Male, 18-29, Canada
143 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 8:46:01 PM
@MeGrendel firstly: YOU ARE OBSOLETE, second: you can't just state a bunch of random facts without any proof or sources and expect to be taken seriously, third: where's your "statistic" on america? |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2321 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 7:25:20 PM
SmagBoy1-" if the guns aren't available, as in Australia, Germany, Japan, China, etc., then they're not available for violence."
Australia: Between 3.0-3.5 Million Privately Owned fireamams, 15 firearms for every 100 people, number of ILLEGAL firearms is estimated to be between 550,000 & 6 million.
Germany: 25 million privately owned, 30 for every 100 people, estimated 17 million illegal guns.
Japan: 710,000 privately owned, 1 gun for every 400 people,
China: 40 million private guns, 4.9 per 100 people
(no estimates by Japan & China over illegals, but they're there).
What was that you were saying about 'guns aren't available'? |
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 ginger5010
Male, 30-39, Asia
6 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:59:45 PM
what Timothy responded I'm dazzled that a single mom can earn $8087 in a few weeks on the computer. have you read this web site Great70.com
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 SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2734 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 4:03:47 PM
That's the point, 8BitHero. She had a whole arsenal of guns "for her protection". See how much good they did her? People fantasize that they can stop a robber with their awesome guns. Well, I guess like you said, not if they're shot dead while they sleep. |
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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
5417 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:56:55 PM
Unless he shot you in the bed while you're asleep... |
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SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2734 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:43:44 PM
OzzyMerc, if the guns aren't available, as in Australia, Germany, Japan, China, etc., then they're not available for violence. And, yes, you can kill with a knife, but not at six rounds per second of flesh-tearing, bone-shattering, life-sapping lead meant for the sole purpose of killing people. Get your facts straight. Look at the stats. They're so obvious that it's not even worth discussion. If you want to deny them, it's no different than denying gravity. |
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 Demstar_Aus
Female, 18-29, Australia
105 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:42:15 PM
Banning guns will make it more difficult for people to acquire them. Driving things underground makes them more expensive, so the low-end criminals won't have enough money to buy guns and ammunition. The rich people will still be able to. Doesn't solve the problem but makes guns less of a standard thing. Does your house have running water? Lights? Guns? Not that last part... |
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SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2734 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 3:36:50 PM
MeGrendel, your data come from a thoroughly debunked study from, yep, you guessed it, gun advocates. Every single peer-reviewed study shows 35-50% reduction in gun deaths. PERIOD. Also, although suicide rates overall have stayed about the same, gun suicide is down over 50%. And, guess how many mass killings they've had since the law? ZERO! NONE! NADA. I'm not even going to bother being polite about it, drat MAN?!!?!? You can just out and out lie and think it's okay? 20 kids were shredded to bits by a SEMI automatic weapon that was built for one purpose and one purpose only: to kill. It's ridiculous. |
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 OzzyMerc
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
55 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:47:19 PM
This post is kinda tasteless. Gun bans will not do anything to reduce gun violence. You see, the criminals committing murder are still going to commit murder. The streets are already flooded with fully automatics as it is AND NOW you want to take guns away from citizens who obey the law and obtain theirs legally? Wake up America. People kill people and in the case of Sandy Hook, it was a mentally disturbed young man...step up the mental health laws in this country before you go around talking about gun bans. The laws have failed us soo far in VA Tech, Tuscon where Gabby Giffords was shot as well as in Aurora, CO. Something culd have been done to intervene before these mentally deficient people went on their rampage. |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2321 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:23:58 PM
furryblob-"People have a right to life without the fear of being gunned down."
Sorry, you do not have a 'right' to live without fear.
furryblob-"What I learned from the Sandy Hook Massacre is guns are only for killing"
Then you have learned absolutely nothing. Which is probably a frequent occurance in your life. |
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 HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1124 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:24:37 AM
What I learned from the Sandy Hook Massacre is guns are only for killing and gun nuts/conservatives are lying bastards.
This is an interesting perspective. As one of the "gun nuts ... lying bastards", I am curious how you've come to this conclusion. Would you care to expland upon this notion? |
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furryblob
Male, 18-29, Europe
526 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:16:21 AM
What I learned from the Sandy Hook Massacre is guns are only for killing and gun nuts/conservatives are lying bastards. |
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furryblob
Male, 18-29, Europe
526 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:09:39 AM
He's right, screw the 2nd amendment and gun rights supporters. People have a right to life without the fear of being gunned down. |
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 edana42
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
2341 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:43:58 AM
bahahhaha does anyone have the follow up twitters to this?!
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5252 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:43:45 AM
@MeGrendel: Interesting, however the second link isn't really anything, and all I can read from the first is the abstract, so I can't scrutinize their methodology. For example, the study I cited uses panel data to account for jurisdictional-specific fixed effects as well as accounting for factors that affect all jurisdictions in the same way. Since I can't read your source, I don't know if they analyzed Australia simply as a whole, or if they delved deeper into each jurisdiction's numbers specifically. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:33:23 AM
Moore is a d|ckhead, he spouted this same sort of crap after Columbine. He was just as wrong then as he is now. |
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 turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1779 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:32:55 AM
Flame bait poo post. |
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2321 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 10:10:07 AM
patchgrabber-"You need to source your claims."
"GUN LAWS AND SUDDEN DEATH" by Jeanine Baker & Samara McPhedran, British Journal of Criminology, 47: 455-469
with follow up of "Enhancing evidence-based policy: principles and practice from an Australian case study" by Jeanine baker & Samara McPhedran, Current Issues in Criminal Justice, 20(2 |
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papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
217 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:44:12 AM
Of all the stupid dumb-assed comments that have spewed from Michael Moore's mouth, this may be the dumbest. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5252 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:37:58 AM
@HA: Fair enough. A claim that guns can go off on their own is pretty silly. |
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HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1124 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:34:48 AM
I see no fault per se in this logic, however what you are not taking into account is that cars have much, much more value and importance to society than guns.
I agree with this for the most part. However, my argument is not regarding the capacity of an object to be used as a weapon. Simply put, I do not disagree that firearms have a greater capacity to be used as weapons than cars.
Instead, my argument is that the intentions and actions of an actor ultimately decide if an inanimate object is a weapon or not. Innately, a firearm is no more a weapon than a car. While a firearm certainly has a greater capacity to become a weapon (than a car), without an actor, it's merely inanimate mass.
I'm also committed to the argument that a firearm, independent of action, is not inherently dangerous. |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5252 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 9:19:13 AM
MeGrendel: "Let's see, Australia's guns laws have:
done nothing to reduce gun-related homicide."
You need to source your claims. This study found a substantial decrease in firearm suicide rates and firearm homicides with little substantial impact on non-firearm death rates. |
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