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James Madison Clarifies The Second Amendment

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Xprez
Male, 30-39, Western US
 676 Posts
Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:01:37 PM
I grew up around guns, lived in the "country" we were always shooting stuff. That being said, I completely agree with this. Civilians do not need to own assault rifles. You still have the right to bear arms (hand guns) but no one needs to own an assault rifle outside of the military or police.

InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
 335 Posts
Thursday, December 20, 2012 4:33:39 PM
ya, those crazy people who want to keep their civil rights...

8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5426 Posts
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:45:15 PM
Stop trying to put sense into the pro-gun nutters. It won't work!

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 3:44:11 PM
only non lethal weapons

This is oxymoronic; no such device exists. Every item has the capacity to be lethal. Lethality is imposed by the actor, not the item.

By your logic, knives, stones, baseball bats, crowbars, cars, etc. should only be possessed by the police and military. Again, an inanimate object is not inherently lethal nor is it a weapon; such properties are imposed by the actor.

Perhaps it would be wise to solidify your own thoughts before attempting to belittle CrakrJak.

spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1247 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 3:16:51 PM
Oh CrakrJak, you do amuse me.

spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1247 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 3:13:07 PM
Civilians owning guns is silly, most other countries in the world get by just fine with strict gun controls and have minimal gun related crime. Outside of the police and army only non lethal weapons should be allowed.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1597 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 8:35:00 AM
Yeah 'cause the Army and Police were a REALLY BIG help the other day. Glad we have those well trained policemen who are just smashing at showing up after after the bullets stop flying and saying brilliant stuff like, "Boy look at all these dead people." "Good thing this was a gun free zone or it could have been a lot worse!"

As an aside I read the next day of a guy shooting up a hospital. Cops got to him after he shot three but killed none. Funny how a hospital will almost always have a cop around due to the nature of police work...so there was a good guy with a gat who put a stop to the insanity ASAP.

I'm not blaming the cops in the first case as they can't prevent most crime. It's the nature of the beast. But posting crap in a video that leaves any and all gun rights to only police and the armed forces is plain nuts.

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3139 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 7:41:12 AM
this guy dosen't know what he is talking about

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 7:21:26 AM
I should also state that the quotes and links are stolen from here: Source.

The article also details some of the events regarding the Oregon mall shooting last week. For instance, I find it interesting that the last thing the attacker saw before committing suicide was an armed citizen confronting him. The death toll was 2 (plus attacker).

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 7:16:04 AM
@patchgrabber: Definitely a bad thing as far as I am concerned. Of course, I'm not going to say that forcing citizens to purchase and possess something is good. Rather, I'd just point out one instance in where a increase in gun ownership directly correlates with a decrease in crime (since it has been argued extensively).

Also IAB for some reason won't let you use the quotes and links in the same post.

I once was blind but now I see.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5745 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 7:08:49 AM
Also IAB for some reason won't let you use the quotes and links in the same post.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5745 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 7:07:48 AM
@HA: Not to nitpick, but your first link shows a town where the government mandated firearms as mandatory. Isn't that just as bad as saying that no one is allowed a gun?

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 7:07:26 AM
@jtrebowski: What do you mean when you say "assault rifles or semi-auto machine guns"?

Citizens in the US cannot legally purchase firearms that discharge more that one round per trigger pull. A semi-automatic mechanism is one in which the firearm discharges a single round per trigger pull.

That all being said, perhaps you could clarify your stance a bit?

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1978 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 6:55:03 AM
Give the government your guns,go ahead. Baaaaaaa!

jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3261 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 6:49:39 AM
CrakrJak: While I agree that banning guns altogether is not a realistic solution, I'm not convinced that it should be so easy for people to access assault rifles or semi-auto machine guns, etc... That being said, where Do the countries that you listed in your post rank when it comes to mass shootings?

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 6:37:04 AM
James Madison is rolling in his grave.

[quote">In 1982, the town of Kennesaw, Georgia, passed an ordinance which required all heads of household to have at least one gun in the house. The burglary rate immediately dropped an astounding 89 percent. Ten years after the law was passed, the burglary rate was still 72 percent less than it was in 1981.[/quote">
Source

[quote">A 1996 University of Chicago study concluded that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their murder rates by 8.5 percent, rapes by 5 percent, aggravated assaults by 7 percent, and robbery by 3 percent.[/quote">
Source

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3824 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 6:35:09 AM
Draculya,
You CHOSE to be born in Asia?

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5745 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 5:52:31 AM
@Crakr: Once again failing to take into account that your country doesn't count simple assault in its list of violent crime while other countries do. For instance if you only compare the crimes that the US considers violent crime, Canada is only at 233. But keep wearing those blinders @CJ.

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 6273 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 4:39:14 AM
@CrakrJak, that's because we're a tiny island crammed with nearly 60 million people. A lot of which are Americans.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10184 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 4:33:54 AM
What part of Asia are you from Drac?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 3:24:37 AM


Wondering where America is compared to that list? It's way down at 470 per 100,000.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12724 Posts
Monday, December 17, 2012 1:27:24 AM
The second amendment and it's stalworts are backwards. Arguing that you need guns to protect yourself against criminals is like mutually assured destruction for the intellectually challenged.

That's one reason* I chose not to be American.

*Apart from:
Evil foreign policy
Lack of basic rights (the important ones)
Broken judicial system
Mounting social and debt burden
Rampant illiteracy
High violent crime rate
Social inequity
High global taxes
and others.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10184 Posts
Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:29:19 PM
"Also, if you miss, it won't go through 6 walls and kill your neighbor."

Frangible rounds. Best ammo for indoor protection.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 15076 Posts
Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:08:15 PM
I own a gun. A .22 caliber semiautomatic pistol.

Actually, a .22 auto is an EXCELLENT home defense weapon. Because of its low recoil, it allows you to put several shots in your target in a very short period of time. Also, if you miss, it won't go through 6 walls and kill your neighbor.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10184 Posts
Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:04:43 PM
I think I'll just leave this here....



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