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 InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
 329 Posts
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Thursday, December 20, 2012 5:21:56 PM
Ya, 'cause it would be great to be more like those countries. |
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 Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
3328 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:27:39 PM
Just FYI: This poster is from about 1985. I remember seeing it on the bulletin board in my undergrad college's mailroom. (Which explains why it refers to "West Germany" and why the statistics are about 27 years out of date.) |
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 itzazoom
Male, 18-29, Europe
176 Posts
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Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:16:54 PM
"west Germany" ? really? what the hell? |
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 Flashpacker
Male, 18-29, Europe
652 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 12:14:41 PM
@wolfguy423
Yea, you as well, dude.
But please try to comprehend what i'm about to say.
Sure, people pull the trigger. So in that sense, yes, of course those persons are responsible. My point is that you wouldn't have that prob if not everybody was running around with drating cannons strapped to their hips. How many people do you think die unnecessary during a dispute just because a douche was carrying? Thats the real murderer, the accessibility and the fact that so many are carrying everywhere they go. But why do they carry? To be safe from criminals with guns, right? Aren't there any mericans that can see that this is a vicious circle? Violence begets violence. If you're gonna fight fire with fire you have to do it swiftly or else you're stuck with 2 fires. I'm not pointing a finger just at usa, this goes for everybody. But you guys have been screwed since they wrote the second amendment.
With that i send your last sentence right back at you. |
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 triki-trakes
Male, 18-29, Western US
83 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 11:08:29 AM
I call BS what about the 50,000people in MEXICO? |
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 wolfguy423
Male, 18-29, Western US
143 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 10:57:52 AM
"Flashpacker
Male, 18-29, Europe
646 Posts Monday, December 17, 2012 7:20:05 AM
"Guns don't kill people.. People do."
Please stop using that saying.. it's stupid and you're stupid."
Right, I'm stupid eh? so if i just sit a gun on the counter it'll go off and start killing BECAUSE its a GUN, right? Good, got it. just had to clarify that mate. So next you have a thought, just let it go. Ass-hat. |
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 AdamBomb
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
39 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 10:33:28 AM
So ??? 40,000 people die every year in the US from car accidents. This just makes me want to carry even more. |
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 greenbasterd
Male, 18-29, Canada
2132 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 9:47:08 AM
switzerland huh? oh you mean the place where everybody has a gun in the house? oh yea that place... |
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 dm2754
Male, 30-39, Western US
2767 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 8:01:12 AM
thank god those babys in CT where not killed with a hand gun.
in the U.K most are killed with Knifes.
in Japan many are killed with Baseball bats.
so this is BULLSHIYT |
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Flashpacker
Male, 18-29, Europe
652 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 7:20:05 AM
"Guns don't kill people.. People do."
Please stop using that saying.. it's stupid and you're stupid. |
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papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
220 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:28:35 AM
Agree with a few here; You could either force everyone to have a gun or ban them all and still, the gun never killed anyone and won't under either condition. You wanna pass laws how about better ways to monitor at-risk whack jobs? Why don't you RFID those sick bastards? |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10249 Posts
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Monday, December 17, 2012 6:10:10 AM
Facts this isn't using them..... |
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 wildancrazy
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
136 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 9:21:45 PM
They used justifiable homicides (police shootings and legal civilian shootings..) in this very old ..and debunked ad |
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 scheckydamon
Male, 50-59, Southern US
98 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 5:21:38 PM
Last year handguns killed ZERO people. Sh eit heads used hand guns to kill the 10991 people in this ad but the handguns did not do it. I am sorry but if even 10% of those people had been armed they would have to change the total to 9892. Still too many violent deaths but one number would not change. Handguns would have still killed ZERO people. |
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wolfguy423
Male, 18-29, Western US
143 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:30:21 PM
guns don't kill people, crazy mother f*ckers with guns kill people. |
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Zuriel
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
412 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:27:25 PM
Yea...and more deaths are caused by drunk drivers...
...people are frak'n dumb.
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 Rizzo71
Male, 40-49, Europe
186 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 3:34:11 PM
West-Germany isn't existing anymore and the US passed the 30000 - these numbers are so old. |
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 ULTIMATE710
Male, 18-29, Africa
4 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:40:50 PM
By the time half of their country will be killed by hand gun they will stop it. |
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Nihilism
Male, 50-59, Canada
18 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:22:39 PM
@randomxnp: At least try and keep your argument factual and preferably without ad hominem arguments. I didn't cherry pick any data, I supplied the exact data to place Canada on the graph that AntEconomist provided. Canada's murder rate is roughly 1/3 that of the USA, and the handgun ownership is substantially lower as well. That information goes against the title of the graph. And I haven't told anyone what to do; one of the reasons I prefer living in Canada is because the majority of the population does not favour private gun ownership. |
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snowman7
Male, 18-29, Europe
23 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:13:48 PM
West Germany hasnt been a country for years. |
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 MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:54:35 AM
8bithero. [was talking about how one event should not be used to decide policy]
Would that be the same 8-bit hero who said, and I quote:
"I remember when the Batman shootings happened and there was a bunch of morons on I-A-B telling me how I'm wrong and blah blah crazy European, gun crimes SOMEHOW goes up if you take guns away etc etc bullshi7. So, America, how many shootings will it take for you guys to get rid of guns?"
I'm counting at least two shootings (the Batman one and this most recent one) that he is talking about and suggesting a pattern from.
As I say, when you accuse people of something they're clearly and demonstrably not doing, such as claiming they are talking about one isolated incident and deriving policy suggestions from same, you just look like an idiot that can't or won't read what's written in front of you. |
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 MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
2221 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 11:03:47 AM
550 people were murdered in the UK last year.
(source ONS)
Out of 60Million. That's about 1 in 100,000.
The UNODC has murder rates in the states at 4.2 per 100,000. So much for the deterrent of gun ownership.
if its was as black and white as comparing stats ~ then the UK with strict gun controls, is 4 times safer than the USA with lax gun controls.
Its not that simple, of course, but saying that the UK is worse off than the USA, from a safety PoV, or a crime PoV, is bollocks.
Nick12684's unsourced statistics are obviously just fantasy facts. Highest knife death and violence? What kind of statistic is that even?
How can we have more knife deaths than anyone else in the world when California alone had 250 murders by knives/cutting instruments (and 1250 by gun).
(Source FBI)
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 erikthevikin
Male, 30-39, Canada
555 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:55:02 AM
We're number 3, We're number 3, We're number 3, We're number 3, We're number 3, We're number 3, |
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uunxx
Male, 30-39, Europe
107 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:53:23 AM
BTW the advert is from 1981. |
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uunxx
Male, 30-39, Europe
107 Posts
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Sunday, December 16, 2012 10:28:53 AM
@randomxnp "You are a selfish, self-righteous and self-centred prig. You say that less gun ownership is better because you don't wish to own a gun. It is utterly selfish ...blah, blah, blah... it is just because you want to control others, tell them to live like you do. Typical "liberal" - illiberal in the extreme."
I also don't want you to experiment with explosives in your house and keep surface-to-surface missiles in your backyard. I'm so selfish, all fun killer. |
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