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Leadership And War

Hits: 6655 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2492 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 3:43:41 PM
@Klaxor: Fair is fair, I guess Mexicans should take responsibility too for the US Civil war, however small the contribution might've been

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12082 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 3:40:57 PM
Oh FFS.

Smiley, have you forgotten to take your meds again?

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 2:35:48 PM
drawman61: good point, which is why all people in that nation should gather on the front lawn of the little white house on the hill and chant "DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!" Then grow in numbers, and not stop until they control their government again.

klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
 647 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 2:05:44 PM
"are they really taking responsibility for the Mexican revolution?
Wow, that's some gall" - Except for the fact that the US ambassador plotted with a Mexican General to overthrow the democratically elected president at the time.

The U.S. has always had it's nose in other countries business, especially our neighbors down south

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2492 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 12:37:48 PM
are they really taking responsibility for the Mexican revolution?

Wow, that's some gall

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 6188 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 12:24:24 PM
Funny thing is, they have convinced you American citizens that they were all wars. Wrong. Many were just American invasions.

Dragonace
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 298 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 11:29:50 AM
I cannot think of a more sad and one-dimensional way of viewing the world.


Welcome to typical modern day American way of looking at the world. If its bad, its fault of the other party; if its good, then my party did it. I agree its pretty pathetic, very few of us Americans these days actually look past party lines to view the whole picture. Sometimes I'm honestly embarrassed to be an American.

ElMustache
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1622 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 11:19:00 AM
Remember too, that the political parties have re-aligned multiple times, and there haven't always been just republicans and democrats.

Rick_S
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3199 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 11:16:38 AM
Like FoolsPrussia said, not all of these can or should be blamed on one party or the other. WWI, WWII, and the Iran Hostage Crisis would have happened any way, regardless of party.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 10:56:51 AM
What is the point of this? You can't blame the Civil War completely on Republicans, unless you just think we should have let the southern states secede, and World War 1 and 2 can't really be "blamed" on Democrats either, even though they got us involved. Also, a war like Vietnam may have been started by Democrats, but Nixon also escalated it, and though Afghanistan was started by Bush, Obama instituted a troop surge.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 10:40:05 AM
those founding fathers have a lot of catching up to do if they want to stay in this race. no wonder no one votes for them or believes in them anymore.

nubblins
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1753 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 10:27:26 AM
I think it's a little more complicated than "who started it"

Not impressed.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 10:21:52 AM
Looking through everything - like wars and economic performance - through the prism of the political parties of the presidents is so dumb. Seriously, it is really dumb. I mean, for real. At the very LEAST, you would look at the party of the House and Senate during those events to get a better picture. If you read the constitution, that branch of government is the one that is supposed to have the power to go to war and influence the economy.

I cannot think of a more sad and one-dimensional way of viewing the world.


As a footnote, I don't know when this was made, but I find it weird that it includes Operation "Secure Tomorrow" in Haiti in 2004, but not the more recent bombings of Yemen, Libya, and Pakistan....regardless of which president was doing it. I don't think any troops even died in Operation Secure Tomorrow, it's not really a war.

duckinfuh
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 892 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 10:05:07 AM
@CrakrJak
I think it's only because Lincoln was president when it started.
(Who was a Republican. There's your US History lesson for today.)

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17292 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:53:39 AM
Blaming the Civil War on Republicans? WTF!

I'm pretty sure it was the Democrats that started their secession from the union and fired on Fort Sumter in April of 1861, which began the war.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13519 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:41:10 AM
More political party crap.

scapegoat7
Male, 18-29, Western US
 201 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:40:36 AM
TTMAN- Really dude? Really?

Not trying to pick on you but I am flabbergasted that people in the US still dont understand the CIVIL WAR and that the parties pretty much switched views around the 60's.

The Republican Party had been founded as an anti-slavery party. The Democratic Party, in opposition after the Civil War, was limited almost exclusively to southern states. Most southern Democrats were very conservative and remained so until the 1960s.

Many ethnic minorities supported Roosevelt in the 1930s. This voting block became very loyal to the Democratic Party. Kennedy, Johnson and the Democrats championed civil rights in the 1960s. As a result these conservative southern Democrats switched parties and became Republicans.

Essersmith
Male, 18-29, Europe
 275 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:38:07 AM
Read: Alot of wars

handimanner
Male, 60-69, Western US
 1873 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:22:35 AM
Lincoln was a republican and president during the civil war. Sheesh, don't they teach civics anymore?

Mantistador
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2207 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:21:28 AM
YAAAAY interactivity...

unmercyfuldu
Male, 18-29, Western US
 774 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:10:48 AM
How is this determined? Based on the political affiliation of the president? The majority in congress? Kinda a stupid way to look at war. But I guess we should expect this. We are a nation of finger pointers.

TruTenrMan
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2565 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:04:54 AM
The Republicans were responsible for the Civil War? All they wanted to do was secede from the Union. The Northern states are the ones that wanted to fight over it.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3892 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:01:18 AM
What about South America?

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4628 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 8:56:21 AM
I'd hardly say that the Democrat party was "responsible" for the World War II.


kitteh9lives
Female, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 1459 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 8:16:42 AM
Link: Leadership And War [Rate Link] - Which political parties were responsible for America's deadliest wars? The history of American war from 1775 to 2006.

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