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American Health Care Vs. The World's Prices [Pic]

Hits: 15553 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17311 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:24:29 AM
I was wondering when guysmiley was going to show up yelling his usual chant.

darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:56:48 AM
@dilazer, you're talking about out of pocket.

we paid only $250, but the bill was indeed $9500.

as pumba pointed out, the difference is who is footing the final bill. in hospitals (as well as pharmacies) there are actually 2 prices for these services. if you have insurance, baby delivery (for example) would be $9500; if you don't have insurance, baby delivery would be $6000.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:49:55 AM
that's why you gather at the little white house on the little hill, and chant "DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!! DEATH TO THE PRESIDENCY!!!!!!!!" Then you grow in numbers, and chant louder and lourder and keep growing and chant louder until the nation is handed back over to the people.

pumba62
Male, 40-49, Canada
 975 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:32:04 AM
@ Chris86530: When you state: "I wouldn't let my family dog be treated by a European physician.....

I would not let my dog be treated by any physician they aren't trained to treat dogs , I would bring it to a vet thought

pumba62
Male, 40-49, Canada
 975 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:23:33 AM
It's free here in Canada too, these are prices that the hospital charges the insurance company or the patient.
Here in Canada the insurance company happens to be the government so the prices are much heavier regulated. the government in not in the hospital business they are not looking to make a profit they just want to break even. There in lies the issue in US it is all about making profits for the shareholders!

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4919 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:06:37 AM
In the UK health care is not dependant on income, it's based on need. If you don't like waiting you have the option of going private but that generally only works for non-urgent treatment or if you want a fancier room. If it's serious you need the NHS. Yes, it's paid for by taxes but the cost to the taxpayer is way less than the cost in the US to whoever is footing the bill.

Most people in the UK regard the NHS (for all its faults) to be the jewel in the crown, something we actully got right. Either we're all stupid or it works.

djlazar
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 186 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:57:44 AM
I call bullcrap. My kids were about $3,000 apiece to be delivered a few years ago.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12748 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:55:22 AM
Oh and treatment's immediate for any of these things here in Hong Kong. Faster than premium USA/European/Canadian private sector.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12748 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:54:12 AM
Here, it's all a flat rate of $12.65, unless you're lower income, then it's free; or unless you're from the People's Republic of China, then it's more than the USA. it's just our way of saying F-U very much to our new 'masters'.

Essersmith
Male, 18-29, Europe
 275 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:29:00 AM
In scandinavian countries.. All these are free..
Not to mention schools and schollarships to everyone over 18 who wants to study in university.
We have it so hard ^^

@SCfan
Even if it was true, Id rather die waiting than die because I cant pay.

AntEconomist
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 263 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:43:38 AM
Why stop at health care? I propose that the private sector adopt this free model. We should each pay Apple $10,000 a year and then all of our i-Stuff will be free! We can pay GM $50,000 a year and have free cars. And we pay grocery stores $30,000 a year in exchange for free food.

Think of how rich we'd all be with all this free stuff!

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1235 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:13:10 AM
"in sweden the maximum medical fee in a year is about 150$

as a reference i payed 12$ for a 1-day stay."

In Finland they are taking that 11€ per visit /22 per year fee away and making it completely free (yeah, government pays it, it's not free etc.. ). Why? They found out that 80% of that fee was going it processing that fee and requiring more people to handle that all. So making the fee go away, they actually lowered the costs.. Funny eih?

And some criticized about European doctors.. Never had a doubt that they would be any different from US doctors. I think there some stats to show they are in equal terms professionally.

matherdon
Male, 18-29, Europe
 69 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:11:06 AM
In Norway, all that is free after you get a freecard. You get a freecard if you get medical bills are over 350,- USD/year

SCfan
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 1946 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:59:43 AM
No one goes broke paying for socialized healthcare, they just die while waiting for treatment.

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 6285 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:58:44 AM
I'm in the UK so I genuinely don't know how your system works. Are you saying you're allowed to die if you can't afford an operation?

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2717 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:30:17 AM
"You missed out the prices for the UK. Let me rectify it...

Uk Free. Free. Free. Free. Free.

Thanks NHS ;)"



It isn't free, it costs around 80 billion pounds a year to fund.

Just because you're not paying at point of treatment doesn't mean it's free....it just means we're paying for it in our central taxes. The model does make it very cheap though, but because it's centrally funded does mean that it is also controlled directly by government, and politics can and do influence the varying levels of treatment open to the patients....some cancer treatments are available in some areas, but due to costs are not if you live in the next town along.

Our system is by no means perfect....and the current government want to make it even less perfect for the peopl as a whole because like the republicans in the US they have rich friends who want in on the business of making people better and don't want it to be cheap for all.

IRockYeah
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2607 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 4:09:28 AM
You missed out the prices for the UK. Let me rectify it...

Uk Free. Free. Free. Free. Free.

Thanks NHS ;)

rubbiten
Male, 18-29, Europe
 145 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:50:04 AM
in sweden the maximum medical fee in a year is about 150$

as a reference i payed 12$ for a 1-day stay.

robthelurker
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2328 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:40:31 AM
holy poo it costs money to have a baby delivered? i guess i always thought doctors and the government would take care of that one. well, i suppose my future baby momma is just gonna have to have an at home delivery.

BrimstoneOne
Male, 30-39, Canada
 2239 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 2:47:54 AM
corporatocracy at work in the United States, social(ized) anything and Democracy; those are for "other" people. The Corporations don't want or need "the people" to want a system that helps people, where's the profit in that?

tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3294 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 2:42:14 AM
The real reason that the US has to pay for private healthcare is simple. Politicians are on the boards of the insurance companies. Mainly republican politicians.

Notice how they object to any and all changes that mean their companies would lose money.

tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3294 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 2:40:25 AM
And all those are 100% free in the UK :)

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 6126 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:58:55 AM
Well- seems to be clear- as always. Those of us lucky enough to have socialised healthcare are very happy to have it, we know it is not perfect but what is. the only US citizens who don't wan t it are those who have no idea how it works or have no idea how well it works.

hinker
Male, 30-39, Europe
 35 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:51:43 AM
@ Chris86530: When you state: "I wouldn't let my family dog be treated by a European physician", I hope you're equally willing to state that you've made a biased and unreasonably generalizing statement which doesn't really say anything of value. There are roughly 780 million inhabitants in Europe and saying that the hospitals here are equally bad and only fit to serve dogs is silly.

I live in a so-called socialist society, Denmark, and although the Danish health care system has the same problems as many others, malpractice for instance, it's completely free and I fail to grasp how a person cannot see the obvious: getting healed and treated when you're sick is just as much a human right as the access to food and water is.

But please, enjoy your worries over having to pay for health care and I'll gladly have my second child delivered from a danish hospital - for free, take my daughter for all of her vaccines - for free and let my broken arm take care of, agai

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6406 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:01:28 AM
Any Canadian will tell you our medical system is flawed, mostly (as I understand it) because hospitals are paid annual lump sums rather than "by the procedure" as is done just about everywhere else.
But at least no on goes broke over a family member's illness or simply goes without life-saving care as so often happens in the US. The system simply works as a giant medical insurance company, where everyone pays into one pot. As with any insurer, the bigger the subscription, the lower the risks and (hopefully) the lower the cost. Plus, of course, it's non-profit.

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