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1,000 Wrongfully Convicted And Counting...

Hits: 8349 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: TracyOpp
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IminurHaus
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 40 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 12:06:28 PM
@CrakrJak

You seem to be confused with drafting laws and "making" laws. SCOTUS makes law all the time. Every time the Court interprets and delivers an opinion, that is the law of the land (with some exceptions such as in the case of a plurality opinion). Sometimes a decision creates new law, sometimes, it merely clarifies a constitutional right "for the books" so to speak. If SCOTUS's interpretation declares something unconstitutional, such as governmental restriction on a woman's fundamental right to personal autonomy, there is nothing, short of amending the Constitution, that the legislature (the branch that you mistakenly believe has exclusive rights to "make" laws) can do.

That being said, with the current state of the political arena, it seems unlikely that Republicans will have the political clout anytime soon (if ever) to amend the Constitution to outlaw abortions. Move on and focus on something productive.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 10:59:05 AM
That would be two elections my short minded friend. Your abortion stance was a career ender for every politician that let it be known. Your state is now concentrating on making abortion illegal and every politician behind it will eventually be removed. It's a losing argument that can be won with facts and statistics but we know republicans reject facts. You're not going to get your way. Abortion will remain legal in America your entire life. There is nothing you can do about it. In fact, just about every stance you hold on everything is the exact opposite of how a normal person acts. Perhaps you should do the opposite of every impulse you have, you might actually make something of yourself for a change.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16155 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 10:16:43 AM
madest: I still fail to see how the results of one election makes this 'Your World'. We share this nation and the planet with others and that would've remained the same regardless of who won in November.

Abortion was not legislated, no bill or amendment was passed to make it 'legal'. The SCOTUS doesn't make law, they interpret it and they've increasingly become more interested in saving the life of the unborn rather than allowing it's continued destruction. Even the woman anonymously named 'Roe' in that famous case has came out against abortion.

Kalimata
Male, 30-39, Canada
 647 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 9:24:10 AM
@CrakrJak nice hijack of thread.

ccalhoun86, well put.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 6:55:49 AM
It is not 'Your world', you megalomaniac.
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Oh but you're mistaken my unaborted friend. I'm all for abortion and lo and behold abortion is legal in America. I'm a proud democrat and lo and behold our country rejected republican nonsense and re-elected a democrat for president in a landslide. If you had anything at all going for you it's people like me who would rather pay for people like you than let you die homeless on the street. You're welcome by the way.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2742 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 4:06:01 AM
@CrakrJak

Nobody says the unborn child isn't human. The clippings from my toenails are human.

The debate is whether it's a PERSON.

ccalhoun86
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 76 Posts
Monday, December 03, 2012 2:00:57 AM
I think madest lashing out has very little to do with "winning the argument" and a whole lot to do with describing why he refuses to attempt a rational debate with a hateful, petty non-nice individual who spews half truths, blatant lies, GOP propaganda, and irrelevant biblical excrement more than my baby spews formula. I've been on i-a-b for 2+ years, and have noticed you argue against every notion of fairness, freedom, and intelligence; using misinformation, backwards logic, and reasoning plucked from a dogma that enforces hate, slavery, subordination of women, murder, and hypocrisy. You take from the very society that you have nothing to give in return, and criticize the drat out of everything that isn't 100% what you agree with. I don't know the extent of your disability, but I'm gonna go into my dark place and say I wish something fell on your testicles, because a man with crushed balls can't get in to heaven. Who would you pray to then?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16155 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 9:45:41 PM

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16155 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:42:40 PM
madest: Tantrums? You're the one acting infantile sir and you've demonstrated as much in this thread. It is not 'Your world', you megalomaniac.

shaustin
Male, 18-29, Canada
 143 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:33:54 PM
i would be absolutely terrified to live in that country...

obhwfgirl
Female, 18-29, Western US
 584 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 3:26:13 PM
"So we can call the system the United Soviet Socialist Republic all we want, but it's only useful if you have a workable alternative. I am all ears for any solutions."

Well, for one thing, DNA evidence is not public property. It's the property of the police department that collected it. NPR was discussing the other day that someone had been wrongfully convicted because the DNA evidence belonged to the police department and they didn't have to release it to the defendant. They didn't use it in the trial because it didn't support the prosecution.

The problem with the psychology of the police and justice system is that a person is innocent until proven guilty, but if the lawyer for the prosecution is a better lawyer and evidence that would support the defendant isn't released, then the system is skewed to get convictions.

Go compare the per capita rate of incarceration in the United States compared to other countries. We don't have more deviants, jus

BlankTom
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 6560 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 2:39:04 PM
"you're not living in your world. You're living in mine."

Great, a world of full of idiots. :(

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 2:19:03 PM
Abortion is legal in America CJ. There is nothing your pea sized brain can do about it except throw tantrums when reminded you're not living in your world. You're living in mine.

BlankTom
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 6560 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 12:05:57 PM
i hate to break up this incredibly relevent abortion debate, but you all realize that madest admitted to being an idiot, right?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16155 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 11:45:05 AM
madest: You're raving mad, casting wild aspersions and spouting vapid derogatory slanders.

That's about par for the course with you when you are loosing the argument. That sort of lashing-out is indicative of an unstable mind and it endears no one to your side.

Corpsecrank
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 875 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 9:44:45 AM
Whatever the little prick probably is guilty just sayin.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 9:44:40 AM
CJ, You're retarded. You want a small government that's involved in everyone's bedroom. Nobody is having sex with you, so there's little chance of your spawn being aborted. You care about other people having abortions yet are too poor to adopt unwanted children. You're nothing but a loudmouth societal drain. How about you keep your silly BS that in no way involves you, to yourself? Your mother could have done America a service by aborting you.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16155 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:33:50 AM
madest: The difference is the unborn haven't been convicted of anything, rightfully or wrongly. A human life is a human life, whether or not it's head has breached it's womb is not important.

Those using the word "fetus" to describe an unborn child are deluding themselves away from the fact that it's a human being. An unborn child dreams (thinks), breathes amniotic fluid, have beating hearts and fingers and toes after 3 months.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 10269 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 7:27:08 AM
Miscarriages of justice are common everywhere. Here in Hong Kong, in the UK where I'm from and especially in China. The psychology and bureaucracy is universal:

Tunnel vision > trumped up charges and forced confession > judges that weigh evidence unfairly > a system that won't admit that the system doesn't always work.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 6:05:27 AM
Romney is a tax dodger. If there was justice in America he would have been in jail not the nominee of the republican party.

BlankTom
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 6560 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:50:36 AM
Also, this would never happen if Romney got elected. Welcome to four more years of innocent people being put in jail

bex753
Male, 40-49, Western US
 182 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:38:55 AM
CrakrJak no wonder the Republicans are in a death spiral. The easiest way to drastically lower the Abortion rate is comprehensive free contraception something most of the RW are against

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 744 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:32:10 AM
That analogy almost made me sick... Comparing abortions to wrongful convictions and stating that they are linked in anyway (well, locking up fathers undoubtly will result in more abortions from the mothers..) is just a result of sick and twisted mind.

Bottomline is, you just don't care. The thinking goes: they would've done something anyway so might as well lock them up now. You want them to suffer for some weird reason.

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 744 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:27:36 AM
"So please tell me again, which is the greater crime? Killing 50 million innocent children or a few hundred innocent adults? "

Fetuses. Not children, not human yet, fetuses. Children are breathing, thinking humanbeings, fetuses are a bunch of cells.

BlankTom
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 6560 Posts
Sunday, December 02, 2012 5:22:09 AM
"Those baiting tactics might work on your fellow republican tards but they're not even in the same hemisphere to people with a 2 digit IQ or more. "

"I won't have a conversation with someone who equates abortion with jailing and even executing a wrongfully convicted human being. "

So considertin you took he bait - which one are yoou? Republican or an idiot?

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