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Just How Warm Has It Been This Year? [Pic]

Hits: 8812 | Rating: (2.0) | Category: Science | Added by: FoolsPrussia
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mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:18:57 PM
CrakrJak:
5cats:

The earth is not 'cooling' right now either:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-cooling.htm

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:18:03 PM
Er...
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:17:34 PM
richanddead:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-ac... rel="nofollow" style="font-weight: bold; color: " target="_blank" href="http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm">It's not the sun

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:16:50 PM
"Really then you didn't see my earlier post showing the correlation going back 500 million years."

Your data stops well before the year 2000. You'll see if you extend the data beyond that point into today they no longer correlate.

The sun is not causing the current warming we're seeing.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1843 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:15:14 PM
@mesovortex: if you extend the data well past that mark, they no longer correlate.

Really then you didn't see my earlier post showing the correlation going back 500 million years.

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 5:24:12 PM
"I believe that Earth is warming right now, yet I think it has a lot more to do with the sun. The 10 outlier years listed also correlate to solar minimums and maximums. As does the rise in temperatures over the last 400 year."

If you extend the data well past that mark, they no longer correlate.

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 5:22:29 PM
"....because in the vast scale of geologic time the last 100 years is significant, right? "

The rate is very significant yes. No known natural causes can account for the rate of warming we are seeing. It has huge implications because it very well could trigger mass extinctions. I recently read an article in Science about lizard populations being unable to adapt to the rate of warming. They estimated 40% of all lizard species would be extinct by 2080 - conservatively.

daverazor
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 195 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 4:10:11 PM
I may just form an opinion of my own and google up some evidence to support my belief. Then act smart on IAB.

InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
 335 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:50:55 PM
....because in the vast scale of geologic time the last 100 years is significant, right?


Shelworth
Male, 50-59, Western US
 327 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:35:36 PM
Good thing they had all those calibrated digital thermometers in the exact same spots since the 1800s or this would be hard to believe.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1843 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:20:08 PM
Oh and also, now there's more ice at South Pole than ever before. But remember every year the poles regularly lose half their ice in their respective summer time. That's the reason for "Rhode island size" chunks coming off every year and that piece of "proof" of global warming.


Also here is a video and
link.

skullgrin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 915 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 2:58:44 PM
people still actually think humans are to blame for the warming trend?

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1843 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 2:15:23 PM
There have been greater ouliers that have lasted much longer. But for 500 million year there has been a correlation, with outliers included.





5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24981 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 2:08:13 PM
USA's temperature may be up, but GLOBAL temps are even or down.

AGW proponent s ALWAYS claim "local variations" are unimportant, unless it helps their meme... funny that...

AGW on Tree Ring Data:
Supports AGW: Tree ring data is PROOF!
Does Not Support: Local variations! Hide the decline! It's not proof of anything!

That's what "hide the decline" is ALL ABOUT! Modern tree ring data shows NO warming trend, so AGW simple CUT IT OUT after a certain date... since it made their numbers "normal"... can't have that! The numbers MUST fit the theory!

Global Warming Conference Held in Qatar: World Capital of Greenhouse Emissions! lolz!

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3398 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:48:12 PM
@Cajun: How am I moving the goalposts here? Of course the sun plays a role in Earth's temperature. My link just busts the idea that it is playing a significant role in the current warming trend, as you can see from this graph:



Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10242 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:44:12 PM
Solar activity has actually been decreasing since the 1980s.


You're moving the goalposts, if data derived in the long term is better than short-term then richanddead's graph does show there is a strong link between solar activity and global temperatures. It's NOT the only influence but it's not irrelevant.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1843 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:40:33 PM
I believe that Earth is warming right now, yet I think it has a lot more to do with the sun. The 10 outlier years listed also correlate to solar minimums and maximums. As does the rise in temperatures over the last 400 year. Here is a link



FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3398 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:33:42 PM
@richanddead: Solar activity has actually been decreasing since the 1980s.

LINK

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1224 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:27:16 PM
This is all based on lies. The NOAA has several times adjusted the old temperature data. In every case it has been to reduce almost all of the temperatures amended. In no case have they ever published any justification for these adjustments.

The result is, of course, to make modern temperatures look higher than they are by comparison. It is utterly dishonest.

FoolsPrussia

You do know that is based on a lot of lies, don't you?


auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10069 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 12:59:19 PM
I like your graph Prussia. It confirms that we are experiencing a warming trend.

It must have been coooooooold when the Dinosaurs were around.

plimpslap
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 95 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 12:54:40 PM
because -5 and -15 really feels different in the winter. cold is cold

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3398 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 12:52:35 PM
And here's why Crakrjak's graph is bullpoo:



auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10069 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 12:50:17 PM
I think he is saying localized temperature doesn't matter Prussia.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3398 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 12:49:21 PM
@CrakrJak: That's why the title doesn't say global temperature.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 12:39:18 PM
Getting warmer? Good, I hate the cold.

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