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The Key To Understanding Dinosaurs? [Pic]

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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11275 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:20:15 AM
NO English words are as old as the bible.


Yes they are. Many of them, especially if you include the new testament.

English was definitely being spoken 1700 years ago, when the new testament was written. It was almost certainly being spoken ~2400 years ago, when the old testament was written.

It wasn't modern English, but it was English (Anglisc, if you want to be accurate) and it's the main foundation for modern English. Probably about a quarter of modern English words are as old as the Christian bible.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:15:11 AM
CrakrJak: So, you're saying that since some guy named John, some guy named Paul, and some other guy that might have been Paul wrote some stories, THAT is why you believe in salvation and everlasting life? Wow... and what proof have you that they were actually writing "God's words" and not just making up their own? What proof have you that they are more holy than the writings of any other religion? Faith? And why do you have such strong faith? Just because your parents believed it first and told you it was the one correct truth. Is that about right?

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11275 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:10:39 AM
Remember this, and all christians should do to: The bible was never correctly translated from its original arameic. For a lot of the words, there are no direct english translations, so it had to be translated through many other languages.


Most of the Christian bible was not written in Aramaic. Different parts were written in different languages - ancient Hebrew, Aramaic and the koine dialect of ancient Greek.

So the point is stronger than you thought - it's not just the issues of translating from *one* language to another. The problem is that it inevitably means that nobody is reading the actual Christian bible because that no longer exists and nobody could read it all even if it did, not least because Hebrew is a language resurrected very recently - modern Hebrew is not necessarily the same as ancient Hebrew.

On top of that, some "translations" are outright lies for political reasons.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:59:23 AM
"Faith in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy or some invisible purple tiger doesn't carry the promise of salvation and everlasting life either. "

Santa Claus spoke directly to me and told me as long as I had faith in him, he'd forgive all the bad things I've done, and when I die I'll go to the North Pole and become an elf and make toys for other little children with faith.

Point = invalid. Good day ;)

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16908 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:55:34 AM
mesovortex: How did I ever defend 'young earth creationism'? I in fact stated that I have no idea how old the earth is or isn't.

I stated that God is all powerful and that the laws of science simply don't apply to him, aka time/space/matter/gravity etc.. That isn't defending any timeline that mankind has created. God is above timelines.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16908 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:50:44 AM
HG: Faith in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy or some invisible purple tiger doesn't carry the promise of salvation and everlasting life either.

Jonn 3:16, Romans 5:1-2, Ephesians 2:8-9 just to name a few. And God promises us even more, in the bible, if only we believe.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4970 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:25:58 AM
CrakrJak

"Basically, if you require proof you don't have faith, and faith is what God wants from us."

Switch out the word God and all these statements make JUST as much sense:

Basically, if you require proof you don't have faith, and faith is what Santa wants from us.

Basically, if you require proof you don't have faith, and faith is what the Tooth Fairy wants from us.

Basically, if you require proof you don't have faith, and faith is what the invisible purple tiger that lives in the attic wants from us.


HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4970 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:22:37 AM
TheGuySmiley

"Faith in God is never going to end, so you might as well get used to it."

I'm sure the Greeks thought that faith in the Greek Gods would last forever. I'm sure the Egyptians thought faith in the Egyptian Gods would last forever.

Atheism is growing at an increasing rate. As knowledge spreads, religion fades. The internet is the worst possible thing that could have happened to religion.

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 10:20:22 AM
"Basically, if you require proof you don't have faith, and faith is what God wants from us."

Doesn't sound like a very intelligent god. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtains...

So your god doesn't want you to think or question anything, just blindly believe and obey. It sounds like slavery to me, and it doesn't sound like a just or good god.

No thanks. If I did choose to believe in a god, it sure as heck wouldn't be one like that. Why put myself through suffering to worship something like that?

Also - you actually defend young earth creationism. That's sad.

spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1247 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:46:30 AM
As long as we fear death, religion will always manifest itself. It's not complicated, clever or anything special just safety net for some people. What really annoys me though is when religious folk try and incorporate science into their beliefs in some kind of futile attempt to try and bring rational reasoning to something that isn't rational.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:46:42 AM
patchouly: prejudicial much? To where it's from, well you already know, and your willful ignorance isn't fooling anyone, but if it helps : Genesis 1:1. Also, don't delude yourself into thinking atheism is somehow free from being hateful, open your mind a bit.

Brometheus
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 357 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:36:14 AM
"Basically, if you require proof you don't have faith, and faith is what God wants from us."

It's like his essense of gelfling. He needs our faith for sustenance.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16908 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:57:40 AM
AmagBoy: I just require proof to believe it.


The whole point of religion is faith. Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

Basically, if you require proof you don't have faith, and faith is what God wants from us.

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4537 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 7:15:08 AM
TheGuySmiley
"Well, God did create everything.

HG: Faith in God is never going to end, so you might as well get used to it."
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And where is your proof? Where did you get that from? Are we seriously supposed to accept that your Mom and Dad told you it was true, therefor it must be? Most of you don't believe in your own Bible, but are willing to believe something, just because your parents said it was true. It's sad and it's embarrassing. It's time for all of you to let go of the silly stories, stop the evil hatred they perpetuate and become a good, logical atheist.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:59:30 AM
Well, God did create everything.

HG: Faith in God is never going to end, so you might as well get used to it.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4170 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 4:08:35 AM
If I drop a golf ball on Earth, it will, 100 out of 100 times, fall directly toward the Earth's center of mass at 9.2 m/s^2. If it doesn't, I can figure out why by analyzing all other forces acting on the ball (wind, magnetism, etc.). As a result of this, I can conclude some few things about the way gravity and mass interact with each other. But there's lots that I *can't* conclude or even infer. I have to expand my questions and my tests. And after hundreds or perhaps thousands of years, I can begin to come to an understanding of all manner of mechanisms with as much confidence as the fall of my ball.

Why can't/won't religious adherents do the same? I'm not saying God doesn't exist, I just require proof to believe it. That's not anti-God, it's just pro-reason and knowledge. Why put up exceptions and mutations as possible proof of a way things *might* have been? Why contort that way? Why not prove what *did* happen?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16908 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:50:10 AM
mesovortex: Alligators have 'cloaca' that could be mistaken for a 'navel'. Also many reptiles give live birth. Such as, The Solomon Island skink, Blue-tongue skink, Shingle-backed skink, Jackson's chameleon, and all boas.

Davy: It's also possible that 'unicorns' were genetic anomalies like this deer found in Florence, Italy.


davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12051 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 11:14:12 PM
I like the bit where the christian apologists say "ah, but when they talked about unicorns in the Bible, they didn't mean actual unicorns". And in the next breath they say "Ah but the Behemoth thing that was big, tail like a cedar, all that bollocks, is clearly talking about dinosaurs".

Which is it? Either sh*t or get off the pot.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4970 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:38:11 PM
This s.hit is so depressing.

I just don't understand how anyone could believe anything in the bible, let alone the patently absurd stuff like this. Can we all just stop brainwashing our children for one generation and end religion worldwide?

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 11876 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:39:59 PM
Fundamentalist bible-bashers, most moderate christians recognise that this is a lost battle. There are plenty of parts of the bible that are patently false. Churches in more enlightened parts of the world step carefully around Genesis in all but the most metaphorical terms.

The most enlightened of us are called atheists because not only do we not believe that which is demonstrably wrong, but we require proof to believe in anything which is absurd and in direct conflict to all that we know as fact in the universe.

jbwhite
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1088 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:23:26 PM
to be fair, smultey, it is a different picture, with different lighting from a slightly different angle. you can expect miracles from iab now, be reasonable.

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:06:39 PM
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Remember this, and all christians should do to: The bible was never correctly translated from its original arameic. For a lot of the words, there are no direct english translations, so it had to be translated through many other languages."

When reality disagrees with the bible, then the bible is wrong. This goes for the age of the Earth, the Big Bang, and even Evolution. Evidence points to all three all around us, and so if the bible says something else happened, then it is dead wrong.

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 408 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:05:24 PM
" The word Dinosaur isn't as old as the Bible so of course it's not in there, and yes it does mention them. "

No it didn't. How do I know? The verses that describe behemoth in the book of Job mentions the animal has a navel. Dinosaurs do NOT have navels. They never did. They lay eggs.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:09:37 PM

Every right-thinking person knows what really happened to the dinosaurs.




RIP

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4170 Posts
Saturday, November 24, 2012 5:24:04 PM
Crabes, I've hit refresh and watched that dog jump over that fire like a hundred times now and s/he never messes up and falls in. Not even once! How'd s/he do it?!

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