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The Key To Understanding Dinosaurs? [Pic]

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TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:10:33 PM
The point i'm trying to get at is religion is a unique tool that can help many people understand love. No one can deny the world needs more love, and if religion helps people exercise love more, that's a good thing. Because of the need for more love in this world, it's the reason why faith will go on and grow, especially in the author of love - God.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:06:05 PM
Angilion: no doubt you can find love in the world, but what true religion teaches is how to exercise that love to the fullest. A lot of people claim to have love, but often it's conditional. But religion can help people learn to trust in God, whose love is unconditional, and learn even deeper lessons of love, or break from conditinal love into unconditional love. Some religions teach love, compassion, consideration for others. It is these lessons this brings a lot of people more happiness, and more satisfaction in life.

When we act under the influence of anger, we often do things that later we regret, don't we? When we act selfishly, often that produces big problems, and not many people like somebody who's selfish.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11644 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 2:53:19 PM
you'll be missing out on the true reason religion is there, which teaches us to love one another and live in harmony.


Rubbish.

Religion is not required for love and harmony.

Love and harmony is not required for religion.

Therefore love and harmony is not the purpose of religion.


All you are doing with that post (and the others in which you refer to honour and various other positive attributes) is trying to steal every good thing and pretend your religion is it. It's profoundly dishonest of you to do so.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11644 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 2:49:59 PM
Angilion: You're really going to compare Christians to prostitutes? Wow, that's about the worst most bent thinking I've heard in quite awhile. That's also about the most offensive anti-Christian slander ever.


But you can't refute it.

I was trying to think of a human-human relationship as abusive and warped as your god-human one. A viciously psycho pimp and the prostitutes they control was the closest match I could think of. Domestic violence was my next best choice. I think the pimp-prostitute comparison is closer, but only for the worst of pimps.

Feel free to try to refute it.

tatripp
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1201 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 2:45:22 PM
I am very Catholic and I cannot stand New Creationist churches. uggh

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5097 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 2:21:16 PM
CrakrJak

"For the wages of sin is death"

Yes. That is God's punishment for sin. Sin doesn't hurt us. It is God's punishment for the sin. So you love God for protecting you from God?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:58:45 PM
Angilion: You're really going to compare Christians to prostitutes? Wow, that's about the worst most bent thinking I've heard in quite awhile. That's also about the most offensive anti-Christian slander ever.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:40:32 PM
HG: Do you know that the Holy Bible holds ancient procedures on how find faith in God? It's almost like a science procedure of today, but perhaps not as refined. But to give it credit, it's one of the earliest procedures, holding the necessary steps to reach the goal. Through the generations we've learned many things are important, such as love one another, being humble, being meek, being slow to anger and quick to forgive, be eager to learn from correction, etc. Procedures and examples for all of these are spread through the Holy Bible, and can help us to understand faith in God, and even meet God. But just because it's aincient is no reason to reject it, because it still works today, and the more you study it, the more it will profit you. Just keep in mind that those who are looking for contradictions and problems will likely find what they want, but those who are looking for the Lord will find all the lessons they need.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 1:13:33 PM
Angilion: Understanding religion is a bit different than understanding or having faith in God. Jesus said to have faith in God, i don't recall him saying have faith in religion. Sure, you can learn a lot when you study religion(s), but until you plant your feet and exercise those lessons, you'll be missing out on the true reason religion is there, which teaches us to love one another and live in harmony. When you do understand faith in God as it truly is, a relationship with God, you may understand the deep love that God has for this world; a love that you can tap into and share with others.

But relying on the prejudices and dogmas of religion, equaling that to faith in God and acting like there is nothing more to it, couldn't be further from the truth. To those who do understand faith in God, it comes across like a pre-calculus student trying to explain advanced calculus to a mathematician..

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5728 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 12:17:59 PM
@Angillion: That is why The One Claus is the truly benevolent deity! By His wisdom bad children still receive presents so long as you accept Him into your heart! No punishment from this deity, only compassion, and all he asks for in return is milk and cookies, but you don't have to if you don't want to.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11644 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 11:59:59 AM
If anyone thinks I am being unreasonable, I suggest you get a bible and read the story of Abraham and Isaac.

Now imagine a story of a particular foul pimp who finds out that one of his bitches is pregnant and orders her to get an abortion for his benefit, to prove her fear of him and her total obedience to his will.

No, wait, that's nowhere near as bad as the Abrahamic god.

The pimp orders his ho to kill the baby after they're born, because that's a stronger display of his power over her.

But wait! After she's suffered for weeks with this nightmare he's imposed on her and she's about to stab her baby to death, the pimp stops her and says she doesn't have to, that it was only a test of her obedience to him.

Do you think that's a show of love and mercy by the pimp to his bitch?

If you do, you're as drated up as a theist.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11644 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 11:47:38 AM
Religion, particularly the Abrahamic religions, reminds me of abusive relationships, especially that between the worst kind of pimp and their prostitutes.

It's the same sort of relationship, only much worse because their god is far nastier than any human.

For example, here's a theist response to the suffering inflicted by their master:

We cause our own suffering and death, they are the wages of sin.


Many victims of domestic abuse blame themselves for the suffering inflicted on them by their abuser, in the same way for the same reason - the psychologically broken belief that you deserve to be punished because you weren't subservient and obedient enough to the drating scum who has abused love and damaged you enough for you to think that way.

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 451 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 11:43:21 AM
"It's apparent you haven't gained that wisdom yet."

Physician, heal thyself. None of what you said makes any logical sense.

BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2015 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 10:48:23 AM
CrakrJak's god is a bit of a prick.

Glad he doesn't really exist outside of the minds of various dumbasses.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17301 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 10:31:44 AM
HG: Our sins don't hurt us.


Yes they do, but you haven't figured that out yet.
You are still trying to shirk blame onto God for your own misdeeds.

Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Please note the word 'wages', that means we've earned our punishment for sin. God offers us a way out through his Son Jesus' forgiveness.

If you break the law you justly deserve punishment and that punishment comes from man.
Sin works the same way, it's punishment that you deserve, even if you don't think you do deserve it. So I ask again, would you blame the cop for your breaking of the law?

A wise man would say, "Of course not, I deserve my fate", and would humble himself and ask for forgiveness.

It's apparent you haven't gained that wisdom yet.

CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 5264 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 10:26:43 AM
MP, it simply never occurred to those people that a person that lived in a time when it was rare to move more than 26 miles from the spot they were born on could see a valley flood and mistake it for the entire planet flooding.

So remember: DON'T tell your children that Santa brings presents...

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 9:53:16 AM
No way... a group of 'scientists' whose public aim is to make the 'facts' fit their theory. Wow.

I particularly like the runaway subduction theory for the flood. Faith is a filler for common sense it would seem.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5728 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 9:13:24 AM
@MP: Oh, they already have tried. They call themselves the RATE group and their mission in life is to use bad science to make carbon dating support YEC.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 9:12:02 AM
I'm sure the religiously minded have some way around that patchgrabber.. Another test from god no doubt. He invented uranium 238 and its decay curves, and then falsified it in volcanic ash just to confuse logical scientific types. Obviously.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5728 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 9:01:26 AM
@MattPrince: If only. Funny thing is that they ARE labeled, just with radioactive isotopes. As it turns out you can use those to determine age.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 8:48:55 AM
"The story we have all heard from movies, television, newspapers, and most magazines and textbooks is that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. According to evolutionists, the dinosaurs “ruled the Earth” for 140 million years, dying out about 65 million years ago. However, scientists do not dig up anything labeled with those ages. They only uncover dead dinosaurs (i.e., their bones), and their bones do not have labels attached telling how old they are. "

lol. if only they kept this bullpoo to themselves it would be funny. Teaching kids that its the truth is very sad. Must involve a large amount of self delusion. C'mon you know the earth is more than 6000 years old right? You can't really be that stupid?

mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 451 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 8:32:50 AM
"Jesus died to save us from our own sins"

Odin died to get rid of frost giants. Jesus died to get rid of sins. I don't see any more frost giants...

Maybe we don't need saving from our own sins. Humans aren't perfect, but we need imperfection to learn and to grow. And what about the people who died before him? Are they just screwed?

Plus the whole notion that if you don't believe in Jesus you go to hell is just silly and stupid and obviously wrong. And, it's not a god I'd want to worship. Anyone with sense would not want to worship anything like that.

Frankly millions of people died due to the 'sins' of man in order to make life better for the rest of us. Why aren't you acknowledging them every sunday instead?

BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2015 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 8:29:16 AM
Dinosaurs ARE your key to understanding the Bible, and here is what you should understand:

* The Bible is just a bunch of stories. Talking snakes, magic sky-men, a lot of claptrap about 'sin' and vengeful gods. In other words, bullshiite.

Sucks to be you, CrakRjackoff.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5097 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 8:05:18 AM
CrakrJak

"Jesus died to save us from our own sins."

What does that even mean? Our sins don't hurt us. So what did he save us from? Punishment for our sins? Punishment from whom? God? So God had a son to die to save us from himself right? How does that make sense to you?

"God is not responsible for your actions, thoughts and deeds, YOU ARE!"

I never said God should change freewill. However worldwide belief in a single God would bind the world together and end all religious war. He could just show himself to the world to end a ton of human suffering. So, if he knows that and chooses not to then he is not a loving God.

Saunder
Male, 30-39, Europe
 178 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 7:44:06 AM
Know ye not that ye are Gods?

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