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TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 2:52:48 AM
Davymid: The knowledge, wisdom, and justice of all Geneva Convention gatherings, since it's inception, are still only foolishness in terms of the wisdom, and justice of the sovereign God.

It is pointless to judge God's judgements or decisions as wrong or unworthy, because we know not what He does. All we can do is seek to understand why. God created all life and has power over physical and spiritual life and death. Men do not have such abilities or power, so your example of the allies is irrelevant since no person can restore a life.

However, God can. There is a life after death which can hold eternal life or an eternal death, which God holds power over. So even though people die a physical death, God holds power over what happens to each person/soul/spirit then. Whoever is destined for eternal life/death will have it, and it will be just.

God is sovereign, and this is all basic information that can be found easily by whoever seeks it.

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 11:40:22 PM
"But don't let the enemy of mankind trick you into thinking He's not by lea(n)ing on a crutch of prejudice."

Oh yeah, Satan, who created that fella then?

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12085 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 8:53:18 PM
HG challenged: Do you think drowning everyone on the planet is just and merciful? Do you think killing the innocent children of egypt is just and merciful?

Smiley's answer?:
don't you think you'd see the possibility that those children may have been brought up to be even worse than their parents were?

Wow. Just wow. Let's murder them all in their cribs, just in case. What if the Allies, on finally conquering Germany at the end of WWII, had perpetrated a mass genocide by drowning all the babies of current Nazis, on the possibility that they may possibly grow up to be as evil (or more evil) as their parents? I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have stood up against the Geneva Convention.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 7:58:45 PM
HG: again, it's pointless to lean on prejudice, it will get you no where. If you were able to flee from it, don't you think you'd see the possibility that those children may have been brought up to be even worse than their parents were? God is just and merciful far beyond what mankind can comprehend. But don't let the enemy of mankind trick you into thinking He's not by leaing on a crutch of prejudice.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5068 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 7:39:08 PM
TheGuySmiley

All you did was quote genesis. I've read genesis.

"every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time"

So you are telling me that a two week old newborn had evil in its heart? Come on. That really makes sense to you?

"but perhaps that is what they brought upon themselves by choosing to be so wicked?"

So you are saying a two week old baby brought it upon itself to be drowned to death?

Can't you just step back and admit, ya that is f.ucked up? Jesus is love and acceptance. The old testament god is not.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 7:02:53 PM
HG: at any rate, had this not been done, who can say that we would not have wiped ourselves out by 1000BC? Only God can say, and its likely we wouldn't have made it that far unless God had taken the necessary steps to prevent us from continuing in wickedness.

It's already coming back now, and today, if you look around. So it's best to be prepared and do whatever it takes to love one another and be excellent.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:59:46 PM
HG: Genesis 6:5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.


Notice every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time (contradictory to all the innocent you say) and in fact only one found favor in God's eyes (noah), which we can assume means they were not wicked. you're right drowning is scary, but perhaps that is what they brought upon themselves by choosing to be so wicked?

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5068 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:45:39 PM
TheGuySmiley

"if you really want to know, the answer is out there. But rest assured God is the just and merciful"

That may be the biggest cop out I've ever seen.

I have asked this question of lots of Christians and I have never received an answer. Isn't it the duty of a Christian to witness? To explain the lord to the nonbelievers?

God flooded the planet and killed everyone, even innocents, children, and babies. I understand the bible says that mankind was wicked and God wanted to reset.

My problem is that he chose drowning, one of the slowest, scariest, most traumatic deaths I can think of. He could have just had everyone die instantly with no suffering, yet he chose drowning.

Babies and children died slowly and painfully scared and traumatized for the sins of others. Tell me how that is just and merciful. It is a simple direct question.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:36:35 PM
LillianDulci: it can be answered quite simply, but ignorance, mockery and scorn is in the air, so why cast pearls before swine?

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:35:06 PM
angellion: actually it seems a lot of things you've brought up are viewed as if with spectales of bias. All the questions you had have simple answers, not complex ones. Perhaps when you take them off and sincerely seek the answers, you'll find them right under your nose.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:35:03 PM
"if you really want to know, the answer is out there."

And yet, you're somehow incapable of answering it yourself.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 6:20:53 PM
HG: Honestly, I've seen questions like yours asked and they're always serving to mock and scorn, if you really want to know, the answer is out there. But rest assured God is the just and merciful, with wisdom far greater than all of the greatest men combined.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11630 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 5:42:36 PM
HG: You just keep circling around to blame God for sin, like a broken record.
You've basically deceived yourself into blaming the cop for the speeding ticket you get.



A much more accurate analogy is blaming the violent criminal gang leader for having you beaten and having your shop burnt down because you didn't pay protection money to them. That's what "sin" is - failure to pay up, in one way or another.

Then there's the sins committed by your god, according to your own religion. They range from grotesque psychological abuse to mass murder.

If I believed in your god, I'd certainly blame them for their own actions and I'd be right to do so.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11630 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 5:35:45 PM
The former can be achieved by rejecting God and choosing wickedness and evil, the later can be achieved by seeking God, and choosing holiness and goodness.


So what about those who reject your god and choose goodness, or those who seek your god and choose evil?

You constantly pretend that your religion is everything good, that nothing good can exist without it and that anyone who doesn't follow it is automatically bad.

You are constantly wrong.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11630 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 5:32:16 PM
The point i'm trying to get at is religion is a unique tool that can help many people understand love.


Your point is bollocks. At best, it's based on false premises and the false conclusion you draw from those false premises. At worst, it's just deceit.

The primary lesson of religion is obedience, almost always reinforced with fear.

Your god is particularly bad in that respect. Your claim that his love is unconditional is a ridiculous lie, according to your own religion.

There is no basis to your argument at all. You're just collecting every positive thing you can think of and attaching it to your religion, with complete disregard for the truth.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5068 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 4:12:50 PM
TheGuySmiley

"HG: again, if you want to live by prejudice, rather than the truth, that is your choice. But if you want to know the truth, you can learn it from God. When you see the reasons for yourself, it will be hard to deny how merciful God is."

Since you want to just ignore the question. I'll ask again point blank:

Do you think drowning everyone on the planet is just and merciful? Do you think killing the innocent children of egypt is just and merciful?

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 4:09:49 PM
HG: again, if you want to live by prejudice, rather than the truth, that is your choice. But if you want to know the truth, you can learn it from God. When you see the reasons for yourself, it will be hard to deny how merciful God is.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5068 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:59:06 PM
CrakrJak

"You just keep circling around to blame God for sin, like a broken record."

How am I blaming God for sin? I'm saying there is nothing wrong with sin other than God punishing you for it.

I sin. That it isn't God's fault. It is mine. But Jesus didn't die to save me from my sin. My sin doesn't hurt me. Jesus died as a sacrifice to God so God would forgive my sin like the scapegoat. Right?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17298 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:55:44 PM
HG: You just keep circling around to blame God for sin, like a broken record.
You've basically deceived yourself into blaming the cop for the speeding ticket you get.

You're beyond reasoning with because you fail to see the responsibility you hold for your own fate.

Until you confess and ask for forgiveness, from God, you'll continue to deceive yourself and that will lead to your eventual doom, by your own hand.

Just like Jacob Marley in Dickens's novel, you'll have forged every chain link and lock of sin through your actions, thoughts and deeds.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5068 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:52:35 PM
TheGuySmiley

"God is holy and just and merciful"

Have you actually read the bible? Drowning everyone on the planet is just and merciful? Killing the innocent children of egypt is just and merciful?

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:48:09 PM
HG: That's what prejudice teaches. But the truth is far from it. The world is perishing, and the choice each of us has to make is to perish with the world, or latch on to God and live on. The former can be achieved by rejecting God and choosing wickedness and evil, the later can be achieved by seeking God, and choosing holiness and goodness. God is holy and just and merciful, but won't force his love on anyone, so ultimately it is those who choose to perish who will perish.

It doesn't have to be that way. Like i told you earlier, the Holy Bible holds ancient procedures to understand faith in God, and also to have everlasting life by being loving, humble, meek, caring, compassionate, graceful and kind.

When you can live this way, even in a metaphorical den of wolves with attacks coming from the left, right, front and back, it's a good bet you're on the right path. (there are many stories in the Holy Bible illustrating this point)

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:36:54 PM
LillianDulci: While it is good to love a government that upholds true, just, and righteous ways, if a regime wants to love money above all those other traits, it will only face the natural backlash for its foolishness.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24:55 PM
TheGuySmiley, what was it again that you were chanting when President Obama won reelection, mr. loveblahblahgodblahloveblahreligion?

MattPrince
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2223 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:24:01 PM
"not many people like somebody who's selfish."

Apart from the the devout..

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5068 Posts
Monday, November 26, 2012 3:18:32 PM
TheGuySmiley

"A lot of people claim to have love, but often it's conditional."

You mean like accept me as your personal lord and savior or spend all of eternity burning in hell?

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