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Now You're In Trouble, Vegan [Pic]

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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 2:33:56 PM
jendrian: Chickens do not know the difference between sunlight and electric light, that's been proved for a hundred years. Quit being obtuse.

emmettyville
Female, 40-49, Australia
 4275 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:26:10 PM
lol

jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2492 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 12:10:55 PM
@CrakrJak: as usual, you're talking out of your ass Link here, quote:
[quote">Several factors influence the chicken's ability to lay eggs. Although nutrition is very important for egg laying, the effect of sunlight is greater.[/quote">

It's not anthropomorphizing, it's just not being an ass.

spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1247 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:00:48 AM
Firstly, tofu isn't a meat replacement, it has been used for a very long time and just happens to be suitable for synthesising meat products.

Secondly, Corydoras, you do come across as being a bit of a moron.

Thirdly, my tuppenceworth. Regular meat and dairy consumption is bad for people and the environment, it is also unsustainable. The scientific and ethical arguments fall firmly in favour of a meat and dairy free diet. However people get quite defensive about their bad habits and will continue to suffer ill health and damage to the environment regardless. Stupid really.

MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2347 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:40:50 AM
@Crakrjak

"Well you are what you do, aren't you?"

astute observations skills, and yess i'd rather be a wanker then preaching to the choir. i don't like fiddling with little boy's

(and no that pun is not ment for you, i just couldn't waste it)

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:53:01 AM
'They still hunted and ate animals, followed their migrations and clothed themselves in hides and furs as well as made their homes and storage bags out of their hides as well.

You're attempt at trying to connect Native Americans with veganism is total fail.'

I never tried to connect the two. Native Americans, and most human cultures, hunted and relied upon animals because it was necessary to do so. In many instances today, we do not need to consume animals. Again it comes down to necessity.

Stories like that of the Thunderbird are ancient attempts at defining the world. To an ancient culture, it could be taken as literal truth because it made sense within the reality they existed in. Today, it can only be viewed as metaphor, because our reality has been redefined by science.

What do you think is the meaning behind the talking snake from the Garden of Eden? Should that be taken literally or is it just a metaphorical representation, just like the Thun

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11749 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:39:18 AM
In addition to that, products aimed at vegans generally aren't advertised that way anyway.

I eat some vegetarian (and thus vegan) food. Not because I'm a vegan but because I like the taste of it. It doesn't have to taste of meat in order to taste good. Which is a good thing because I have yet to taste any vegetarian food that tastes like meat, even cheap processed meat made from leftover animal bits scraped up and stuck together.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11749 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:33:45 AM
Remember that for the "Tastes like real meat" Tofu ,someone who has experience how real meat tastes had to test it and approve that it tastes like real meat.. therefor, animals died in the process of making your tofu burger.. now go back to chewing grass like a good vegan..


That's either trolling or grasping at straws.

1) "Tastes like real meat" isn't a meaningful phrase. It's advertising. There's no requirement for any testing.

2) Even if there is some testing, it just requires one person who has eaten meat at some point in their lives to say those words and they're valid for every product made with that processed textured vegetable protein product with those additives...or some other additives.

3) You could stretch the phrase even further by finding someone who's willing to say that based on chemical analysis of the product it probably tastes like real meat.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11749 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:27:26 AM
drips:

You are making a very moderate argument in favour of a general reduction in meat eating.

That is in no way similar to advocating veganism. You're not in any way describing any vegan position, let alone advocating veganism. You're confusing two radically different positions.

Corydoras87
Male, 18-29, Europe
 638 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:23:56 AM
Remember that for the "Tastes like real meat" Tofu ,someone who has experience how real meat tastes had to test it and approve that it tastes like real meat.. therefor, animals died in the process of making your tofu burger.. now go back to chewing grass like a good vegan..

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11749 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:22:52 AM
Well, this is odd. I find myself thinking that CrakrJak has a valid point. That's as rare as hen's teeth.

Although I think that LemonCurry has made a very telling point that annihilates a large part of CrakrJak's argument:

*chuckle* am i glad crackr's mind is not influenced by any nonsense book that has shaped public opinion for generations ...


There's no way that CrakrJak (or any other theist) can rationally make any argument based on public opinion being shaped in irrational ways by books and other media. It's a valid argument, but no theist can make that argument without being a ridiculous hypocrite.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:18:27 AM
Mr Orange I DID NOT say that animal farming started since the nazies. i said that the ARGUMENTS used are the same the nazies used.


I didn't say that you did, I was stating that it's been around millenniums before the Nazis, so the arguments for animal husbandry predate them.

You said that animals should have rights just like women and slaves, you made that pretty clear, don't back peddle away from it now.

i'm going to play with my dick for awhille.


Well you are what you do, aren't you?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:10:58 AM
FP: Please tell me what metaphorical truth you get from the story of the Thunderbird? That birds create lightning?

Native Americans believe in 'spirit animals', symbolic of the forces of nature. They still hunted and ate animals, followed their migrations and clothed themselves in hides and furs as well as made their homes and storage bags out of their hides as well.

You're attempt at trying to connect Native Americans with veganism is total fail.

MrOrange
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2347 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:07:01 AM
@CrakrJak

This is why i'm always hesitant to exchange arguments with you, I DID NOT say that animal farming started since the nazies. i said that the ARGUMENTS used are the same the nazies used.

and NO i did not make the comparison you claim i did, that was in reffernce to the _arguments_ used.

considering your responses i somewhat lost the hope of having a decent exchange of opinions. so i'm going to play with my dick for awhille. nothing personal of course!

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:48:36 AM
'Remember, you don't believe in 'stories', so don't start using them to defend your leftist position.'

I believe in the metaphorical truths the stories are trying to convey. I don't believe in the literal truth behind most of them.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:43:38 AM
Bakcagain: Animal testing makes sure our medicines aren't poisonous, that they are effective and free from side effects. Take away that thorough testing and you get bad drugs that hurt people and lead to lawsuits that eliminate capital funds that would normally be used to further research into new cures.

Without animal testing new drugs are not efficacious and hurt people.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:38:04 AM
FP: Remember, you don't believe in 'stories', so don't start using them to defend your leftist position.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:35:44 AM
MrOrange: ...you do realize that the arguments the nazies used to justify the holocaust are the same you use to justify the current treatement of animals


Wrong, Farming and animal husbandry have been around since the dawn of man. Farmers and Ranchers know that abusing animals leads to higher mortality and thus lower profits.

veganism isn't about placing animals higher..


Didn't you just do so by comparing them to woman's suffrage and slavery?

Animals don't have rights, they have protections that we as humans provide. Animals become food for other animals, that's nature. So what is so wrong that animals become food for us, especially when we protect them from nature, feed them and care for them?

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:28:36 AM
'You are 'humanizing' animals, the technical term is Anthropomorphism. It's not your fault that you feel this way either, movies, music, books and other media have been shaping public opinion about this for generations. It was being done even before the movie 'Bambi' and it will unfortunately continue because we find it entertaining.'

Pretty much every ancient culture in the world has stories that elevate animals to the level of humans. You said you're part Native American. Who has more stories about talking animals than the Native Americans? Crows, wolves, bears, ravens, snakes. They all talk in ancient myths.

ultimakewl
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 821 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:32:45 AM
@drips except thats how most vegans see it
ALL animal use is bad regardless of the reasons, purpose or methods

drips
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 900 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:14:57 AM
Some issues aren't all or nothing. It's about being responsible for your own 'footprint' however you see fit. If all meat eaters cut their meat consumption a third there would be huge benefits (and some losses). It's like saying you can't recycle EVERYTHING so you might as well recycle NOTHING. That's dum.

LemonCurry
Male, 40-49, Asia
 1050 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:46:44 AM
" It's not your fault that you feel this way either, movies, music, books and other media have been shaping public opinion about this for generations."
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*chuckle* am i glad crackr's mind is not influenced by any nonsense book that has shaped public opinion for generations ...

LemonCurry
Male, 40-49, Asia
 1050 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:44:39 AM
"You are 'humanizing' animals, the technical term is Anthropomorphism."
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last time i checked, we are animals too (or ist there a valid argument that we are rather plants? or fungi?

Jaeden3289
Male, 18-29, Western US
 13 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:38:14 AM
Blackcatseye. Actually it can be spelled Antivenin...just sayin'

DracObi
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 290 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 5:32:34 AM
@t4ll. agree
also, that is clearly a bottle of Insulin.

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