 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 14374 Posts
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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:00:53 AM
ByOwlPost: I'm guessing here, but I'd bet there are over a million 'full blooded' Native American Indians in the USA, possibly more. Partial Indians are even greater in number.
Now 'full blooded' could mean a mix of different tribes. The 2010 US Census claims 2.9 million, self-identified, 'sole' Native Indians, how many are actually 100% would just be a guess. |
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 Reignblazer
Male, 18-29, Europe
1554 Posts
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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:58:39 AM
The world of fashion is probably the last place you should look to for political awareness.
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 avail9988
Male, 18-29, Australia
621 Posts
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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:18:39 AM
Thats racist? You should see how we treat our natives.. |
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 Howler81
Male, 18-29, Southern US
229 Posts
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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:54:42 AM
A Native American headdress with LEOPARD spots? Come on! If you're going to misappropriate a culture, go all the way, people! Make it jaguar print - they live in North America. Show me some splotchy rosettes. Those are too filled in.
Maybe they, like Columbus, got Native Americans confused with Indians. Because there are, in fact, leopards in India... |
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 ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
5523 Posts
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Wednesday, November 14, 2012 12:25:43 AM
Its getting way too PC nowadays
let it lie and enjoy life
no harm here |
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 ByOwlPost
Female, 18-29, Western US
520 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 11:53:31 PM
@Jamie76 - I didn't know there were any "full blooded" Native Indians around any more. Not trying to be offensive here, I just thought most had mixed it up a bit by now. That's cool. |
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 Barnk
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
435 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:36:41 PM
How could nobody have commented on the bit of visible labia? Come on, people, pay attention to the mean persons. |
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 jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
2249 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:57:02 PM
I am Native Indian (mom is full, dad is half)...and I have NO problem with this at all.
course, she could use some sensitivity training and I would be happy to provide it to her. |
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 SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2134 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:36:38 PM
No one cares to explore a truly 'new world' that was never truly explored at all in the first place. If people knew what really happened they would probably reexamine what it means to be American. |
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 camael
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
48 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:41:45 PM
Are from school mascots* :D |
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camael
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
48 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:38:09 PM
Andrew155- What you said highlights the problem here- the only thing people 'remember' about the Indians are from their school mascots or place names- maybe isn't the fault of them, but the fault of everyone else who couldn't care less. You can't remember a group of people who, nevermind this being their continent originally, also live side by side with you in said continent- unless you see a pooty racist mascot or a girl dressed in lingerie and a headdress? That's like saying black people only have cultural visibility because of minstrel shows. Learn a little bit about the people who's country you live in. It's actually pretty interesting stuff. |
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SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2134 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:34:42 PM
"Wait.. Is the headdress portrayed as a deeply spiritual/religious item to Native Americans? Only asking since I really do not know."
Does it even matter?? If someone used African regalia no one would care--not all Native Americans are raindancers. In fact, most are your neighbors--and disproportionately your armed service men.
It looks nice. They actually used turquoise in the dress which is traditional. |
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97e4ad
Male, 50-59, Western US
36 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:25:03 PM
It's acceptable to be racist as long as you're also being sexist. If you're looking to Vic's Secret for social responsibility, you're sadly misguided. |
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 Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
839 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 8:08:40 PM
@Slotherder I meant it as sarcasm .. point I was trying to make was that perhaps native americans are their target demographic ... This is totally grasping at straws for the racism card IMO. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:47:59 PM
I'm part Indian and this doesn't bother me personally. |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8727 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:45:27 PM
We should all start pretending that there were no native Americans when Columbus landed. Let's remove all references to them from our history. I wonder if that would make them happy.
"Make who happy?"
Right. |
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 Slotherder
Male, 30-39, Western US
240 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:51:10 PM
Dead-Kittens: "...it's not like Native Americans are actually a part of our culture..." |
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 Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2699 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:42:06 PM
So wearing a particular costume makes me racist? |
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 Scuzoid
Male, 30-39, Western US
1270 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:40:48 PM
Are we mad because Indian casino c*cktail waitresses have the best costumes, or is it something else I'm not getting? |
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 that1joshguy
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
175 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:37:49 PM
Not racist at but chick needs a cheeseburger |
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 turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1800 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:35:42 PM
It's not racist until dm2754 says so. |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1063 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:30:21 PM
People's sensibilities get offended so easily. Wearing a sombrero, a samurai helmet, an ushanka (russian hat), or - forbid - a sexy nun's outfit, is not the worst thing in the world.
Besides, if the Native Americans want people to stop using their images and culture, or their tribe names as school mascots (My high school was the Mascoutah Indians), then I'm fine with that. The only problem is that everyone will forget about the Indians. Nobody will know who the Mascoutans were, or the Illini. |
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Slotherder
Male, 30-39, Western US
240 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:27:23 PM
Not any worse than the angel campaign they had for a long time IMO. I do understand the Native American (feeling some of a personal connection) nation wanting to stop the outside commercialization of the culture, especially when it's fairly vulgar. But really, who takes VS seriously? I heard that VS said, while apologizing, that they viewed it as art. The leopard print fills out the costume very accurately as well, adding supremely to the artistic value. lawl |
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Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
839 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:22:47 PM
How is that racist.. I mean its not like Native Americans are actually a part of our culture or anything... and Im sure they play sex games too. |
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 patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
2960 Posts
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 6:21:43 PM
This is a tough call. I'm in the same boat as "KungFuGuy". If the headdress is a deeply spiritual/religious item, then yes, it is very offensive as it cheapens it. If not, then it's not offensive at all. I think it really depends on who it was that was offended by this.
I'll tell you what I find offensive, that creepy, anorexic chick on stage pretending she's sexy. Why some guys like their woman to look like they are moments away from starving to death, is beyond me. It's all about the curves baby. |
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