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Lee Atwater On The GOP's Southern Strategy In 1981

Hits: 5409 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: FoolsPrussia
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Kathal
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2 Posts
Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:14:17 PM
Lee Atwater worked in political strategy at a time when fact checking was slow. His brand won't work in a day when facts are checked in near real time Political Spin

ChrisP12
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 186 Posts
Monday, November 19, 2012 7:40:16 AM
I loved Lee until he became a pussy and died.

Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
 3672 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:20:28 PM
Ha ha, so cutting taxes (which actually benefits low-income people more than it does 1%'ers) translates into code for "n*gger n*gger n*gger?"

This guy wasn't even 'right' as a racist republican strategist. The vote in question had still been going to the democratic party up until years very recent in precedence to this recording.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17162 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 2:42:51 PM
Actually they just bribe the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, AL Sharpton, and the Urban League, among others. Little if any of that money ever goes to actually help poor people.

I asked a black guy from St.Louis, inner city, where he went to get help for food, shelter, etc. He said, "The St. Patrick's center." I asked, "What about the Urban League or the NAACP?" He said, "They don't do sh|t for anybody."

Simbosan
Male, 40-49, Asia
 160 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:33:45 AM
" They also donate large sums of money to 'urban' groups to get, and keep, them on their side"

They supported underprivileged, poor communities (urban!) and got their just rewards, namely votes.

See what I did there?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17162 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:47:58 AM
jtrebowski: If you hadn't noticed, the liberal elites shape 'urban' opinion by controlling most of the media. They also donate large sums of money to 'urban' groups to get, and keep, them on their side.

jtrebowski
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3261 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:15:54 AM
CJ: "Yes he did. Ayers gave 'entre nous' into the world of the elitist liberals with big wallets and that is what got Obama elected."

Then why is Romney so butt-hurt that so many "urban" voters turned out?

8jdb28jdb2
Male, 30-39, Canada
 82 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:38:21 AM
I don't understand why republician supporters are still babbling on. Before, they had a leg to stand on. Now that they lost twice, they have none. You're in the penalty box for four years. Sit down and shut up.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17162 Posts
Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:29:51 AM
FP: Bill Ayers didn't get Obama elected.


Yes he did. Ayers gave 'entre nous' into the world of the elitist liberals with big wallets and that is what got Obama elected.

alpensepp
Male, 70 & Over, Europe
 1371 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:28:26 PM
could it be that the majority of voters in the south are real non-nice individuals and the parties just adjust to them to get their votes?
democracy wins.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 9:10:28 PM
'Obama was Bill Ayers protege, so now please tell me that that fact isn't relevant after your meager attempt at reciprocity.'

Bill Ayers didn't get Obama elected.

klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
 647 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 9:08:12 PM
and JFK ran on the democratic ticket, with a platform in favor of civil rights.

Oh and JFK came from a family of immigrant Irish, which were reviled by the wealthy protestant class

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17162 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 9:03:47 PM
FoolsPrussia: Obama was Bill Ayers protege, so now please tell me that that fact isn't relevant after your meager attempt at reciprocity.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:34:06 PM
Money, and the profiles of those who wield it are very different between the parties.

FDR was called a "Traitor to his class" and was reviled by Wallstreet bigwigs who resented the New Deal's reforms and it's populism. FDR famously, "Welcomed their hatred."

JFK likewise raised the marginal tax rate on his own income bracket and believed in the same Noblese Oblige tradition.

Rep. money this year came from anonymous business interests that far outspent Dem labor union contributions.

The two parties *are* different when it comes to money, in some truly significant ways.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14393 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:25:49 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha. He actually thought the day had come that you could no longer get people to vote purely on the basis of race. Is it even possible to have been more wrong.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:12:57 PM
'If the insinuation that tax cuts are racist, I'm just going to shake my head'

A tax cut in itself is not racist. Atwater is talking about policies that can be used to court white southerners. If they see a policy as benefiting them over black people, many of them are more inclined to vote thusly. It's about context.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:11:18 PM
And klaxor, that analysis is so lackluster. It is the biggest fallacy in politics that the "money" is on the Republicans' side and the Democrats have the common man behind them.

Only 15 years after the so called "old white money" left the Democrats, as you say, JFK was elected. His family was worth something around a billion dollars.

Money goes everywhere.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:05:32 PM
"Once you're getting that abstract race becomes less of an issue"

There you go?


If the insinuation that tax cuts are racist, I'm just going to shake my head. Poor black people (which are, if you think about it, just poor people), pay such a low tax rate, many receive more in aid than they pay in. So I don't understand, from that vantage point.

klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
 647 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:30:36 PM
"idk...werent the southern democrats really a bunch of kkk people for the longest time?" - For f*ck's sake, stop ignoring history.

Woodrow WIlson was a democrat, and kkk sympathizer.

Then FDR came around with his New Deal, which pissed off all the old white money, (democrat and republican) who went against him. The "liberal" New Deal supporters became democrats.

Stop trying to ignore history. The political parties of the past are vastly different from today.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:20:40 PM
'idk...werent the southern democrats really a bunch of kkk people for the longest time?'

Absolutely. But that changed. Atwater's campaign strategy is essentially the blueprint for the modern Republican strategy. Atwater and George W. Bush were buddies during the 1988 campaign, and Rove learned all his tricks from him.

There's a great documentary called "Boogie Man" about the walking contradiction that was Lee Atwater. On the one hand, Atwater was a blues guitarist who made lots of African American friends. On the other hand, he had no qualms about playing the race card to get his candidate elected.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:17:26 PM
"So"?

So the gauntlet hits the ground with a resounding thud.

Which one of you Reps has the bravery and the decency to go slay the Beast in your basement? For the good of every citizen of this country, whatever their race.

alpensepp
Male, 70 & Over, Europe
 1371 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:21:04 PM
idk...werent the southern democrats really a bunch of kkk people for the longest time?

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 3:58:47 PM
'This was over 30 years ago, said by a guy that no one even remembers. Has nothing to do with modern conservatism.'

Tell that to his protege, Karl Rove...

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17162 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 3:35:24 PM
This was over 30 years ago, said by a guy that no one even remembers. Has nothing to do with modern conservatism.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Saturday, November 17, 2012 2:57:04 PM
What exactly are you referring to, Gerry? I know you're old enough to remember Atwater. Are you unphased by his endorsement of racism as an election strategy?

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