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No Wonder Obama Won: ALL The People Love Him!

Hits: 7443 | Rating: (1.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 10:27:10 AM
Cheating In Florida Too!
99% for Obama, NOT because of double-cards! 5,392 to... 54 another statistical impossibility (without outside forces being involved).

@chalket: #1 It's evidence for "consrevatives doing it" is that "liberal" States are searching... WTF? How con you defend that? Yes I'm using Con & Rep, and Lib and Dem interchangably because of the dratING Character limit, idiot! DUH!

#2: Your link cites a blog post, which offers as evidence a "news story" and THAT story claims as "proof"... TWEETS! From Ghod-knows who!
Thus your source claims Tweets as PROOF, and YOU are defending it!

You've proven yourself wrong, again! Just admit your mistake already, those were two BAD links, and move on...

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 10:12:38 AM
@Crakr: Perhaps - none of us really know. I am inclined to believe that it would not happen.

Let's say that Texas decides that they don't want to be part of the union anymore. One day, the governor kicks all federal employees out of the state and threatens to arrest them if they come back.

What then? Does the federal government send the military? I don't think so. Let's say they do though... Then what? Texas calls up the National Guard. I expect some of the other republican (small r) states come to their aid as well (ahem, yes you Wyoming).

Do you expect that you would see our military fighting the National Guard? Even if they are instructed to, I simply do not believe it would happen. Imagine the negative publicity for the current administration if federal troops attacked one of the states.

Political suicide.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 8:56:58 AM
The only cheating was right in front of our eyes with all the voter suppression in the form of new voter ID laws trying to be enacted within month before the election. New voting laws take years to apply no months. But that backfired. It pissed off the people that it was going to affect and they voted.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 8:54:35 AM
(332 to 206 is an ass whoopin.] "Yes! Yes it is! One wonders why "Team Obama" resorted to cheating at all! We'll never know because the AG will NEVER ASK!"

If Obama cheated Fox News would be all over it 24/7. How can you just blatantly lie like this 5Cats?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16738 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 8:49:17 AM
HumanAction: If Texas left, for instance, do you suppose that a civil war would begin? I do not.


If any state tried to secede it would take armed action and the Feds would not allow it, they'd use the military to take control of the state government. John F Kennedy was very close to doing just that in the 1960's in the segregated south.

Secession is just not very likely, the Feds control the military now, whereas the states controlled it to a much higher degree in the 1800s.

That leaves countrywide revolution as the only remedy left, and even that would be a very long shot these days.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 8:20:37 AM
@Crakr: I purposefully worded my statement to say that secession is the ultimate check on federal power by the STATES (not the people) in a BALANCED republic.

I did not state that we are privy to a balanced republic, nor did I discuss the ultimate check on federal power by the people. In fact, I alluded to us not being a balanced republic when I stated that I dislike Lincoln because he destroyed the ability to secede.

However, I am all to willing to discuss. First off, I disagree that secession would lead to bloodshed. If Texas left, for instance, do you suppose that a civil war would begin? I do not.

In addition, the ultimate, as in most final and extreme, check on federal government by the people is emigration. After all other attempts, including the far-fetched revolution, emigration is the final check.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16738 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 8:01:47 AM
HumanAction: Secession has been ruled illegal by the Supreme Court. Which means it could never be done peacefully, which means people would die.

The ultimate power of the people is revolution, not secession. We aren't quite at the point of disillusionment and disgust that it takes for that to happen, but we are speeding toward that point.

ddaq89
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 148 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 7:54:24 AM
I tried to read the article and after 3 paragraphs I remembered that I don't care.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16738 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 7:50:23 AM
HG: This next clusterf*ck, that's coming soon, you will not be able to blame on Bush. Although I do suspect you'll still be blaming it on the republicans, even though they've offered a reasonable compromise to stop it.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 6:29:02 AM
Should we be allowing those sort of secessionists into America?

If they have come here legally, then yes. The possibility of secession is a fundamental aspect of any balanced republic. It is the ultimate check on federal power by the states.

Without this, states are no longer sovereign and are nothing more than puppets for the federal government. It is better to part as friends than to remain as enemies.

This is the reason than Lincoln will never appear on my top ten presidents list.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4828 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 12:53:19 AM
5Cats

"Obama promised to "fix it" in 3 years, or he wouldn't run again, but he didn't!"

Wrong. I assume you are incorrectly referring to this: tinyurl.com/aofl2x5 ? Skip to 4:30.

"If I don’t have this done in three years, then this is going to be a one‑term proposition."

He is OBVIOUSLY saying that if he doesn't fix the economy he won't be re-elected. So please tell me where he says he won't run again.

"when he was ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE for the United States Of America?"

2009 was a clusterf.uck, but it wasn't one Obama created and you know it.

"the day he SWORE THE OATH was the day he was responsible... "

So you are really telling me you think the jobs lost in March of 2009 when Obama had been in office for a month are HIS fault? Do you think anyone could have prevented that? What could he have possibly done?

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Monday, November 12, 2012 12:08:34 AM
There were 3 links.
The first was International Business Times. The very first line reads, "Move to Canada, eh? Conservative Americans are thinking about it." That ALONE pretty much shreds your "Republicans don't say that" claim. But you are still arguing the point?

The second was examiner.com (owned by Republican Philip Anschutz) that links to credible NEWS STORIES which reference tweets in their story titled, "Disappointed Republicans display woeful ignorance of Australia, Canada" (which also proves you wrong, eh?) The twitter accounts and tweets are still there and verifiable.

The third was cnn.com with the quote "This election cycle... most of the calls "tended to be conservative or Romney supporters. There were not as many from the other side, so maybe they had kind of a premonition."

Face it, dude. You were wrong. I've proven you wrong. Just admit it and move on.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:57:17 PM
Man! 886! Cut off a ton!

I drifted off from being nice, G'nighty!

PS: Free of "lolz" and smilie faces since you don't like those. Hope you still understand what I'm "intending" to say, eh?
(Yes, I admit I over-use them, a bit... I've tried to cut down...)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:52:45 PM
@davymid: Being nice to you now:

"Wow. I'm Hitler now."
No. @FancyLad is 'Hitler' (duh!) you're either Goebbels or Himmler...

"Got my Canadian Citizenship 2 weeks ago..."
Congradulations! Welcome to Canada! You oughta know that keeping a CLOSE eye on the USA is a citizen's duty, eh?

"...otherwise I'm a Brit."
I thought you were Irish? (see, it's a joke! North Ireland still contains Irish people! I know that! Americans, possibly not...)

So THIS is your idea of a GOOD IAB post?
A whopping 4.0 rating! All of 2 comments! One of which complains the link isn't working...
How does that qualify as "quality"? How is that aleviating anyone's boredom? You'd prefer IAB were filled with THAT rather than a post which INVITES the reader to THINK??

Sorry, drifted o

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:35:03 PM
...is my actual opinion so I don't see how that qualifies me as a troll...

Happy to explain!
You said it was "in the Bible".
When challenged, you claimed to "know" the Bible well. You've also suggested that YOU know the Bible better than ME in the past...
In FACT is: the Bible tells the opposite story.

Saying things you know are false, just to "get a rise" out of readers = TROLL!
Stating things ass fact, even when you know you don't know squat on the subject = TROLL!

Often times when I make comments about religion I am intentionally inflammatory.

ic, so You admit I am correct? Fine then. An apology is forthcomming, yes?

So I absolutely admit I was wrong on that.

A tad late, but nice to hear. Doesn't count as "an apology" though...
he tacked a little on

867 BILLION is "a little" these days? OY VEY!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:27:43 PM
We'll see if things get better...

Obama promised to "fix it" in 3 years, or he wouldn't run again, but he didn't!
Either: A) he's grotesquely incompetent
B) He lied
C) He didn't know wtf he was talking about (see: #A)

Your choice!
He promised to HALF the deficit: it doubled
He promised UNDER 8% unemployment, it wasn't.
Well, I suppose it IS FRUSTRATING defending a liar... you oughta know @HG! Being one yourself!

The fact that things have been getting better ever since that first year is why I voted for him.

Wait, is that his first year in office? Or his "first year" since that MAGICAL, so far un-named date when he was ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE for the United States Of America? I'd suggest the day he SWORE THE OATH was the day he was responsible...
And again: You have ONE rule for Obama and another for Bush. STFU!

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4828 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:21:39 PM
5Cats

1. Often times when I make comments about religion I am intentionally inflammatory. However that is my actual opinion so I don't see how that qualifies me as a troll in my understanding of the world. However I take economics and politics seriously so I don't make comments that are even border lining trolling.

2. I was incorrect in the post you linked to. In my recollection the angel came down and told her that she would have the baby, meaning she was already pregnant. However I went back and read it and saw that he tells her she will conceive. So I absolutely admit I was wrong on that.

3. If you admitted the jan, 2009 thing then it happened since the last time I checked that post.

4. Any economist, even the conservatives, will tell you that the budget for the fiscal year of the first president is set by the previous administration. Yes Obama could have changed some things and yes he tacked a little on.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:21:13 PM
That was just one of 3 links, wasn't it?

@chalket: Two, actually. One cited tewwts as "facts" the other cited "Democrat statees" as evidence of Republican acts.
TWO out of three...
Go on! Squirm some more!

Plenty of evidence...

And he DOES!
Oh yes! 2/3 of your "facts" being utterly BOGUS is soooo convincing! After all, it only takes 1 out of 3 to make a majority!
(Hint: libtard math at work!)

Prove the tweets to be inaccurate and you just might have an argument.

Oh, no, so sorry! YOU are obliged to prove your own sources, not me.
Even then, HOW on EARTH could I possibly "prove them" one way or another?
But the onus is entirely on you to provide a REASONABLE source, you failed!
Have a cookie, boy, it'll keep your mouth occupied...


HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4828 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:20:08 PM
5. Obama came in during a massive economic nosedive. Nobody can dispute that. I just don't see how you can start blaming him day 1, like how many jobs were lost his first full month in office. NOBODY could have stopped that. The fact that things have been getting better ever since that first year is why I voted for him.

6. The election is over. Obama won. We'll see if things get better and I'm right or if the world explodes and you're right. I don't see any reason to debate it anymore. It has completely lost any entertainment value for me. It is just too frustrating.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:16:07 PM
"In all fairness there were democrats saying they'd leave America if Romney won."

No argument there, but that is totally irrelevant to your assertion that "Republicans never say that."

MOST things that happened in 2009 are Obama's responsibility, the good and the bad. Just NOT THE BUDGET. You claim to judge Obama on his deeds and broken promises, but you seem to be blind to the horrible crap and lies that Bush did in his eight years. You are using a totally different yardstick for Obama than for any other president. "Waah! He broke his promises!" ALL presidents make promises they can't/don't meet. Every damn one of them! If you truly looked at his deeds, you'd see some good, some bad, just like EVERY other president. But Obama seems to always be the absolute worst in your world. He ain't that different. He ain't that bad. (And Bishop Romney would have been infinitely worse.)

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:05:05 PM
"Who has ignored calls for common decency and still refers to me by a "schoolyard" insult"

5Rats: I do not like you. You have many character flaws that I refuse to in any way connect to cats, which I particularly DO like. That is, as I have told you before, the reason for what you call my "schoolyard" insult. I don't give a rat's ass who you respect or not.

That was just one of 3 links, wasn't it? Plenty of evidence to PROVE your assertion wrong, yet you continue to grasp at straws trying to preserve your precious fantasies. The mere fact that tweets were referenced is NOT proof they are wrong. Prove the tweets to be inaccurate and you just might have an argument. On that one news story. Then you can try working on the others.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16738 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:00:51 PM
chalket: In all fairness there were democrats saying they'd leave America if Romney won.

Also, If you can't admit that 2009 is Obama's responsibility then there is no reasoning with you. Everything is Bush's fault in your eyes and nothing will sway you from that self-deception.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:58:23 PM
The 2009 budget Obama signed took effect on Oct. 1, 2009.


NOT ONE OBAMA PENNY WAS SPENT BEFORE THAT DATE!

Oh wait, yes many pennies indeed were spent.

FU!NQ!

Hint#1: Many of the 2008 budget decisions, like TARP giving GM money? They were decided by congress, signed by Bush and RE-SIGNED by Obama or they wouldn't have happened... get it? Obama could have stopped them, presto!, but he didn't!

Hint #2: I was making obvious sarcastic fun of your stupid position when I (underhandedly) suggested that Clinton was responsible for the invasion of Afghanistan... that whistling sound?

It's my comments going over your head, boy.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:57:30 PM
Crakr: You just keep living in that past, my friend. Keep worshiping your god, Ray-gun and his "ass whoopin'" cause it will never, repeat NEVER happen again. (Come on... against 'Fritz' Mondale and the first female on a presidential ticket? Even a failed B-list actor could win THAT contest!)

332 electoral votes to 206 is as close to a landslide as this "2-sides of 1 coin" party system can produce anymore. This ain't the 80's and they ain't comin' back.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24195 Posts
Sunday, November 11, 2012 10:56:15 PM
I have never linked to tweets.


@chalket: Who has ignored calls for common decency and still refers to me by a "schoolyard" insult... yet expects "respect" in return...

You linked to a site, which cited unverified TWEETS as evidence of their idiotic claims! Then you DEFENDED that!

...evidence that Repugnicans...

ALLEGED EVIDENCE of ALLEGED Republicans... from TWITTER! The 100% Fact-Guaranteed News Source!
Also from leftist Blog COMMENTS.

as evidence that Repugnicans actually DID threaten...


Your "evidence" cited Democrat states increasing the "look-up"! It's a fact! This could have several rational reasons... BUT NO! You choose the single "irrational" one as de-facto proof of your idiotic theory!
Truth hurts. Want me to re-link YOUR links?
Be quiet, boy, adults are talking.

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