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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
 16974 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 9:49:51 AM
Goto the site, it just takes a minute to review the graphs and see for yourself "how well" Obama has done.
Think I'm "cherry-picking"? Find some graphs THERE that say different.
(Note: all are 10 year trends, Jan 2002 > Oct 2012, so it covers most of Bush and ALL of Obama...) |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16974 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 9:45:38 AM
Plenty of others: @markust, @FoolsPrussia, @QueenZira, you! spring to mind, are quite reasonable if you can "pin down" a topic long enough for them to undestand what it's about. Often they'll "agree to disagree" which is just fine!
@whodat is just a poo-disturber (lolz!)
@chalket is just a poo-thrower, never "discusses" anything...
@Baalth: Here's some actual facts: (I cannot just post the charts, doesn't work.)
Labor Participation Rate
Employment Levels (Seasonal Adjusted)
Employment vs Population Level
Goto the site |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16974 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 9:21:03 AM
"The Dow has slid two days in a row now..."
@CrakrJak That's happened for the last 6-8 PotUS in a row, iirc. Some Wall Street'gamblers' bet on one side or the other, then sell-off after the election.
The difference is: Market falls a tiny bit under Bush = BUSH'S FAULT
Market falls under Obama = BUSH'S FAULT
4 more years of "Blame Bush' being the ONLY MSM answer.
@Baalthy: You gloating too? Oy!
16 TRILLION in debt, and by 2016 it could be 22 TRILLION! Yes all caps! That alone = BAD PotUS!
@Listypoos: Thanks eh? However, @CrakrJak has apologised or admitted defeat before. Not often, that's true, but then again most agruements he has aren't "cut and dried" issues with ONE and ONLY ONE correct answer.
Ever seen @HolyGod admit a mistake? NEVER! Even when caught 100% he refuses.
@madest? LOLZ! Oh no, that day will never come.
Shirt... tucked... in! |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16974 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 9:10:58 AM
@jamie: Drunk with victory I see: Perspective? LOLZ!
two failed wars that cost us trillions and have not been paid for.
Failed Wars you say, but Obama claimed Victory in both of them! AND he surged in Afghanistan, I don't recall you objecting to it...
BUSH failed to stop 9/11
@jamie is a TRUTHER! lolz, that is SO FUNNY. Explains a lot, actually...
What exactly should Bush have done? Itemize it please - how the PotUS can stop a terror plot that began under the previous administration...
the deficit soared to record highests
Um, under Obama you mean?
6ooB under Bush = BAD!
1,500B under Obama = GOOD!
Idiot. How about Obama's 2008 promise to cut the deficit IN HALF not DOUBLE it?
the debt soared as well...
And Bush is to blame? For Stim-2? For Obamacare?
You are nuttier than @Squrlz4Sale bro...
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5290 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 6:49:21 AM
@Listypoos: Don't waste your breath. After trying to get him to admit wrong and apologize, the best I got was a concession that if I interpreted his words incorrectly that he's sorry. |
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 Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
1479 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 4:36:28 AM
I'm surprised.. it's not like Crakr to try to beat a dead horse, post bullpoo, and then stop posting when that bullpoo is called out.
oh... hang on... yes it is.. it's exactly like him.
Crackr... It's not just that I disagree with your political stance why I don't like you. After all, 5Cats has a similar stance on a lot of things yet I find him interesting to debate topics with... it's that unlike him I've never once seen you on here admit something you posted on here later turned out to be bullpoo or that you're open to influence given the right evidence. You only ever write opinion as fact and refuse to budge in the face of evidence.
It may be rare, but I have seen others with similar views to yours admit when they were proved wrong or proved to be posting bullpoo figures.
YOu never do... you either try posting more bullpoo to cover it up, or just disengage from a topic when you know you're beat. |
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 Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
480 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 2:46:13 AM
Crakr - the dow has slipped for two days, most are interested in what they do over the next four years. Get back to us when you have meaningful data. |
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 Baalthazaq
Male, 18-29, Asia
4753 Posts
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Friday, November 09, 2012 1:51:25 AM
Crakr:
You lost. Republicans lost.
They lost senate seats. They lost congressional seats. They lost the presidency. They lost the ballot initiatives. They lost on principle. They lost on their platform.
Seriously, check out the ballot initiatives.
Gay marriage. You lost. (Most voted in favour)
Marijuana. You lost. (Most voted in favour).
Taxes. You lost. (Most voted for increases).
Healthcare. You lost. (Most voted to keep it).
Social Security. Lose lost. (Most want it untouched).
But you still harp on about "The worst President ever", when all you can come up with against him is a bad teleprompter joke. 4 drating years of "That guy uses a teleprompter".
We get it. What more do you need to wake up to the fact that nobody gives a poo about a teleprompter? |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:28:48 PM
jamie: Obama can't continue to blame Bush now, he owns this economic wreck now. Besides Obama was never 'at the wheel', the man is a puppet, a stuffed shirt with charisma (so long as he can read from a teleprompter). |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:24:42 PM
The Dow has slid two days in a row now, but you liberals keep telling yourself it doesn't have anything to do with Obama getting elected. |
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 jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
2249 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:20:12 PM
so republicans, did you all forget how YOUR party under Bush desotryed the economy in 8 years?
IF WE SURVIVED THAT Obama is nothing to worry about.
Seriously, you should try to get some perspective.
under Bush
two failed wars that cost us trillions and have not been paid for.
BUSH failed to stop 9/11
the deficit soared to record highests
the debt soared as well and as much as you would like to blame Obama, much of the debt increase under him was already put in motion under Bush.
the list goes on and on so honestly, chill out, there isn't much you guys can say about Obama that worries me when I think how terrible Bush was and we made it through that.
so sit down, shut up and try and enjoy the ride cus you aren't at the wheel anymore. |
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 AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
488 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 10:22:59 PM
OldOllie, I completely agree. Lets do everything B. Hussein Obama wants to do, for at least the next two years. When unemployment hits 20%, the debt hits $20 trillion and Iran nukes Israel or New York, then we can rebuild from the ashes of Democrat rule. |
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 mervviscious
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1785 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:47:31 PM
drink the kool-aid Andrew... drink deep... |
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 Beelzabob
Male, 40-49, Western US
22 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:41:29 PM
Gonna need a lot more cheese to compensate for the all the whining. |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8751 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:47:26 PM
If the House obstructs everything Obama tries to do, we MIGHT survive the next 4 years. After that, though, all bets are off. We're going the way of Greece, and no one will be able to bail us out.
However, if the House goes along with Obama, it will all end up in the $#!++er before the end of his term, and he won't be able to blame anyone else for it.
I favor the latter option. Give Obama everything he wants, and let the entire system collapse. Then we can rebuild it right. Remember, our side has the guns. |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1069 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:28:15 PM
Mervviscious, if you repeat something enough times, it becomes true.
The truth is, the reason incomes stopped growing in the 70's is largely because of inflation. The inflationary policies of the federal government have destroyed income. Mitt Romney's tax rates don't make people poor. He could pay 0% and nobody would be poor because of that. Seriously, there is no logical continuity there.
And the democrats have no idea on how to grow the income of poor people, only give them free money, thus treating only the symptoms, not the disease. 16 trillion has been spent fighting poverty since LBJ's Great Society, and the poverty rate is the same. We lost that war, just like the war on drugs. |
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mervviscious
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1785 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:38:46 PM
poor people voting republican is like a cow voting for McDonalds... |
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 whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2265 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:10:22 PM
That's hilarious |
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 QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
1772 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:05:04 PM
*Plays the world's smallest violin* |
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 mcssls
Male, 40-49, Western US
377 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:52:27 PM
Ha ha, republitards |
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 soundman655
Male, 50-59, Canada
955 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:40:39 PM
loser
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 kitteh9lives
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
978 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:21:21 PM
Link: Taking It Really Hard [Pic] [Rate Link] - A moment of silence please. |
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