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 Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1068 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:32:26 PM
Burbclaver, this might surprise your lackluster analysis, but the difference between "red" states and "blue" states is usually about 10%, that is 1 person out of ten. A huge difference would be 20%, that is 2 people out of 10. That's why the whole red state, blue state business is dumb.
For instance, most of the poor people on the right side were probably black because they are from the South and voting is very racially polarized in the South, they voted for Obama most likely. So they are not voting for the "rich white guy". I really wonder why you would bring up Romney's race out of the blue, also. It's 2012, time to move on bro.
That's an accurate real America. I am astounded at the sloppy analysis I've seen here tonight. |
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 burbclaver
Male, 50-59, Western US
859 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:27:40 PM
Second should say right list. Sorry for error.
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 evam-9
Female, 18-29, Western US
232 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:25:26 PM
Not all with college degrees are smart and good people. |
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burbclaver
Male, 50-59, Western US
859 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:25:05 PM
If you take that left hand list of best educated states and add their rank for household income you get:
1-5
2-2
3-15
4-4
5-19
6-3
7-7
8-6
9-16
10-11
If you add the rank of household oncome to the left list you get:
1-48
2-49
3-47
4-39
5-46
6-37
7-15
8-26
9-34
10-42
So, it seems the rich states voted for Obama and the poorest states voted Romney. The best the right side can rank is 15 and that state voted Obama. It seems strange to me that the poorest states would vote for the rich white guy. Why is this? |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1068 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:21:12 PM
I also wonder what people will think of this.
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 bacon_pie
Male, 30-39, Southern US
1968 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:16:00 PM
I wonder how many of the people of the "educated" states have a degree in Women's Studies or a dead language. |
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 HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2911 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:13:06 PM
CrakrJak
"A college degree doesn't make you smarter."
Absolutely. It makes you more educated, which is what this post is about.
However smarter people tend to have college degrees. Not in every case, obviously, but it statistically overwhelming.
College degrees correlate to a higher income and a higher quality of life.
Look at it this way. Do you have a college degree? If you did or if you had one that was in a field of demand you probably wouldn't have injured yourself at work. Therefore you wouldn't be on disability and would be making significantly more money? Correct?
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:09:55 PM
The only thing this proves is that college is a Liberal Institution that indoctrinates students to Liberal thinking
No it doesn't, this "table" doesn't prove anything. Having a college degree doesn't mean you're more likely to vote for Obama. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:07:12 PM
Good link Andrew. |
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gymcoach29
Male, 30-39, Western US
183 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:05:29 PM
The only thing this proves is that college is a Liberal Institution that indoctrinates students to Liberal thinking. I have a degree and I just did not buy the liberal agenda they were selling. I did what I had to do to get my degree, but chose free thinking over indoctrination. |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1068 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 4:00:34 PM
Oh stop it guys, this is so misleading. This is such an unscientific analysis.
Take Virginia, for instance. It was only 50% for Obama and 49% for Romney. It's, effectively, as much for Romney as for Obama. And who is to say that the educated ones voted for Obama over Romney? It's just a bad analysis. Moreover, educated and intelligence are different. I went to Columbia University, you wouldn't believe how many dummies were there.
Here are the exit polls. There really isn't a significant relation between education and the vote. High school grads or dropouts went for Obama, as did post grads. The average college graduate went for Romney. That's all.
http://edition.cnn.com/election/2012/results/race/president#exit-polls |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:54:14 PM
Woo-hoo Texas isn't on the list.
That being said this is a case of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. According to CNN the education you recieved made very little difference when it came voting for Obama or Romney. |
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 gladhatter
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
165 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:53:38 PM
I call bullpoo |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2868 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:53:34 PM
'You're mistaking education and intelligence. The Indians along the Amazon River have a much higher IQ than the average person on Earth.'
Again, education is the point. Your example of the Indian may be completely true, but he has no understanding of how our society and government work, and therefore cannot make an informed decision in our elections. |
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 SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2741 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:44:43 PM
I realize that some people appreciate college education, degrees, etc. And, that some don't. That's fine. But, with education comes exposure to myriad experiences and ideas. Amazingly, even though many people think colleges are left-leaning, liberal houses of unholy godlessness, even a medium tier school can expose its students to all manner of thinking, liberal *and* conservative, historical and current, science (actual, real science), math, art, etc.
But you know what else it does, too? It exposes people to pooty bureaucracies that are often inefficient, frustrating and uncaring. Learning to navigate them, learning to stick them out and to not only meet the requirements, but be able to bend the process to your will is a worthwhile skill, left or right, conservative or liberal. Deride colleges and the education process if you want. Pretend diplomas are just toilet paper if you desire. That's fine. But the proof's in the pudding. |
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 paddy215
Male, 18-29, Europe
1548 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:42:04 PM
To be fair, a pretty significant percentage of people who go to College are stupid enough to waste 4 years of their life and thousands of dollars on a piece of paper thats going to be less useful to them in later life than a piece of bog roll. Even the majority of people who worked hard and got useful degree's aren't in any better of a position to judge who the best President will be, for example, a degree in software engineering isn't going to make you understand economics any better. IMO this post isn't just arrogant and condescending, its also, quite ironically, uneducated. Any idiot who wants a degree these days can get one with little effort, I would know, they gave me one ffs. |
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 trig45
Male, 18-29, Southern US
71 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:39:39 PM
They are all dumb. Vote green, vote libertarian. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:39:08 PM
A college degree doesn't make you smarter. |
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 Shelworth
Male, 50-59, Western US
212 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:25:52 PM
You're mistaking education and intelligence. The Indians along the Amazon River have a much higher IQ than the average person on Earth. I live in a college town and some of the stupidest people I have ever met attend and work at said college. |
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 schecter5
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
391 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:20:27 PM
Is it sad that I'm surprised Georgia isn't on the list? I'm even from there and I think the people are retarded. |
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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2911 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:16:51 PM
Wheres my goat
"This better illustrates the leanings of college professors than actual intelligence."
This is "Top 10 Best & Worst Educated States" NOT "Top 10 Most & Least Intelligent States"
Education is a measure of your ability to retain knowledge. Intelligence is your ability to process knowledge. Very different.
Here is a measure of intelligence from the 2008 election:
http://tinyurl.com/chz9oef |
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FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2868 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:08:57 PM
'This better illustrates the leanings of college professors than actual intelligence.'
I figured someone would try this one. It's not about intelligence; it's about education. There is a difference. Education is about better understanding the world you live in. If that's "liberal," then I agree. |
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FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2868 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:06:04 PM
'Very similar to the "States that give more in taxes than they get from the federal government'
It's amazing how the narrative from Republicans after the election is that people just want "free stuff" from their government, yet the states who voted for Romney also tend to have more people on welfare and food stamps. |
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 danagamer
Male, 30-39, Western US
446 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 3:01:29 PM
"colleges and universities are indoctrination mills for godless liberalism."
Republican Rick Santorum |
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 WheresMyGoat
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
30 Posts
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Thursday, November 08, 2012 2:59:55 PM
This better illustrates the leanings of college professors than actual intelligence. |
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