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2 Down And 48 To Go, America [Pic]

Hits: 15912 | Rating: (3.1) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17121 Posts
Friday, November 09, 2012 5:41:20 PM
osirisascend: What Obama says and what he does are often two different things entirely.

sosueme1966
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 428 Posts
Friday, November 09, 2012 8:40:35 AM
The funny thing is that both states voted for Obama, the most aggressive drug warrior president in American history, whose Justice Department has already vowed to continue vigorously enforcing federal anti-marijuana laws in both states.

Link_Hiei
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 5190 Posts
Friday, November 09, 2012 5:27:29 AM
@McGovern1981

Don't care if they do or don't. I still get the money at the end of the day.

mykunter
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2272 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:03:00 PM
"Funny how some people can actually work BETTER when they are high."

Yes, I think it's required for autobody technicians... at least it should be.

panth753
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 8860 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:17:34 AM
"Pot is better than alcohol. Legalize pot and criminalize alcohol and the World would be a much better place."

They tried that already, it was called Prohibition.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4625 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:37:31 AM
@patchgrabber
(good questions btw).

Pretty much nationwide.

Alcohol is legal also, but you can still be fired if it shows up in a urine test. Pot will show up longer in your urine, yes, but they may can tell by the levels if you're effected. So the company may set a level, but then again they may not. Cigarettes are legal too, but some companies are requiring people to quit in order to keep their jobs.

Having a prescription for it will make a difference for some companies, others it will not. My company has a policy that you are not allowed on premises if you're taking certain narcotics, even if you have a prescription. (which is good, because we have some dangerous stuff on site).

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 9:01:35 AM
lol @ McGovern.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13431 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:57:23 AM
@link


Link_Hiei
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 5190 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:47:14 AM
I hope it stays illegal. I love the money it brings in.

DubleU
Male, 18-29, Canada
 166 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:39:46 AM
Funny how some people can actually work BETTER when they are high. I have seen it happen. Working in a kitchen has its benefits.

darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:10:22 AM
I think you mean 49 to go, not to mention that DC has their own set of laws too, so more like 50

Mikeoxsbiggg
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1229 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:04:49 AM
Regarding people being high at work. If someone is working at McDonalds at the fry station I don't care. The guy flying the plane I'm in, I care.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13431 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:49:29 AM
Pot is better than alcohol. Legalize pot and criminalize alcohol and the World would be a much better place.


WHOA WHOA WHOA!! Lets not get out of hand here! How about we try to stop banning things most of the time it dosen't work.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:15:04 AM
@MeGrendel: Now, is that on a state-to-state basis or carte blanche across the country? Also, if weed is legal, then how can they terminate you for testing positive? Just because you test positive doesn't mean you are on it at that moment, at that point it would be like firing someone because you saw them drinking alcohol on the weekend. I suppose since it's still federally illegal that could make a difference, but if I have a prescription for it, they cannot fire me for it.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4625 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:07:46 AM
patchgrabber-" if I had been working at a job for 6 years and nothing was ever said about drug testing, and the company then decided to do a random drug test, would that be legal?"

Yes. Conditions of employment change all the time. You always have the option of opting out, but that will result in termination.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:55:43 AM
Yes, it's legal, and also a condition of employement in the vast majority of businesses.

That was the point I was trying to make. I know that businesses can test, I just thought they would need to make that known when you're hired. For instance, if I had been working at a job for 6 years and nothing was ever said about drug testing, and the company then decided to do a random drug test, would that be legal?

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4625 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:42:39 AM
patchgrabber-"Just because you smoke pot doesn't make you an idiot."

That's debatable. But not really what I meant.

patchgrabber-"If you show up to work drunk/high or drive in a similar fashion then you are an idiot"

THAT'S what I meant.

patchgrabber-"you're really just showing prejudice here"

Yes, I'm prejudiced against idiots. It's allowed.

patchgrabber-"it even legal for a business to just spot test you for drugs?"

Yes, it's legal, and also a condition of employement in the vast majority of businesses. Many insurance companies require companies they cover to have a drug testing program. Usually required prior to employement, and after any incident. Random testing is legal, also.

I have no problem with this (as long as they don't start testing for Chili Dogs.)

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:41:32 AM
The forces against legalization of weed used to be lumber yards now it's pharmaceuticals. So long as there are corporations with deep pockets that can buy influence weed will remain illegal. This is the first step of a long haul but there's no possibility of closing the door on such a benign drug. Sanity rules.

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4597 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:38:05 AM
Pot is better than alcohol. Legalize pot and criminalize alcohol and the World would be a much better place.

DubleU
Male, 18-29, Canada
 166 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:36:09 AM
@myrtheus: It is a selfish law to keep. It gives law enforcement an excuse to arrest people and make people pay fines for a drug that is not even close to being harmful as cocaine or heroin. It also gives cigarette companies a monopoly because they know that weed has little to no harmful side effects as tobacco does. Patches suck. The gum is not working. The electric cigs is not effective. Wanna know how to reduce deaths from cigs by a HUGE percentage?? Legalize weed.

Profworm
Male, 30-39, Western US
 307 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:35:05 AM
Legalizing weed is predicted to bring in 1.9 million dollars in revenue to my state of Washington. I don't even smoke it myself, but I wouldn't mind seeing a few bridges fixed around here.

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3122 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:34:13 AM
I live in coloradoand i know it is likly that this will still not happen. voted in or not.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:31:17 AM
Concerning legalizing Marijuana: If idiots want to be idiots, fine. I can see the number of failed drug tests (and increased unemployment) in the future of these states.

Just because you smoke pot doesn't make you an idiot. If you show up to work drunk/high or drive in a similar fashion then you are an idiot, but you're really just showing prejudice here. Is it even legal for a business to just spot test you for drugs? Don't you have to sign something when you are hired so they can do that?

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 6:29:31 AM
This just seems like a selfish law to pass.

Don't be silly. Weed possession is probably the main reason for incarceration and breach of parole, and legalization could potentially save states millions of dollars that would have been wasted on containing non-violent drug offenders. If you can't see value in that, then you're missing the point.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4625 Posts
Thursday, November 08, 2012 5:45:19 AM
osirisascend-"The DOJ under Obama is doing exactly what you just said they won't do."

The DOJ is Obama's lap dog and does exactly what Obama wishes.

BHO: "Don't look under that bullet-riddled bloody sheet. There's nothing there concerning you."
DOJ: "Yessir! We'll just go find some youtube film-maker to blame it on."

Concerning legalizing Marijuana: If idiots want to be idiots, fine. I can see the number of failed drug tests (and increased unemployment) in the future of these states. It may be 'legal', but for liability reasons it will still be against business' policy to show up for work with it in your system. Stub your toe and they'll make you pee in a cup. Mary Jane? 'You're Fired.'.

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