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Think There Are More Natural Disasters Now? [Pic]

Hits: 11754 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: Science | Added by: FoolsPrussia
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21790 Posts
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 11:16:54 AM
@HiEv: That's true! 2005 was THE worst (for the USA at least) on record.
Everyone remembers Katrina, but forget Dennis Rita, and Wilma which were also MONSTERS!
It could easily have set the landfall record as well, BUT as usual many hit as Tropical Storms, which doesn't count.
iirc: 2006 had... ZERO landfalls and was one of the quietest on record, DISPITE the AGW CREW predictions of another "worst ever" season!
Wiki Says: 5Cats IS Correct!
"It marked the first since 2001 in which no hurricanes made landfall in the United States"
So at least 2 years of Zero to counter the 6-8 in 2005? idk for sure.

Great link @HiEv! Nice to see you around, eh?

tatripp
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1200 Posts
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 11:01:40 AM
I wonder who goes around calculating all the natural disasters. i'm not so sure I believe this chart.

sosueme1966
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 389 Posts
Tuesday, November 06, 2012 10:37:04 AM
It truly speaks to the narcissism of the human that they see "trends" in global climates by reviewing 30 years of data, as if only the period in which they live is relevant. That would be like saying you are going blind because you blinked. The Earth's climate is cyclical over millions of years, not decades or even centuries.

If the ice caps have always been frozen and are only melting now, why are they finding trees under the ice? Think about it.

Nerd_Rage
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 423 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 8:15:03 PM
i don't see how this data correlates to 2012.

AntPharm
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 941 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 6:30:15 PM
we all gunna die!

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 387 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 5:44:49 PM
HolyGod: "Haven't been any decades with 20 since."

The page you link to doesn't include 2005-2010. Once you include those years 2001-2010 most likely beat that, but I can't find statistics specifically for hurricanes that made landfall in the US.

In fact, 2005 had the most active Atlantic hurricane system in recorded history (source). They went through the whole English alphabet and got all the way to Zeta in the Greek alphabet for named storms in 2005. That includes 15 category 1-5 storms, 7 of which were category 3-5. I'm not sure how many of them made US landfall, but if even half of them did, 2005 alone brings the total up to around 16. Certainly the 5 years after that beat 20.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21790 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 3:55:30 PM
@FP: Sometimes things pop up right away, I think 5 minutes is my record! Other times @Fancy or The Mods go digging through the back-pages...

One never knows when something will show up!

motleystew
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 44 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 10:37:18 AM
That is only 30 years of data. Earth's climate has been changing for billions of years. No reason to get bent out of shape now.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3153 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 9:41:06 AM
Wow, I submitted this like a week ago.

mikelae18
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 80 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 9:27:57 AM
"Nice... A graphic without a source."

It's by Munich Reinsurance America. It's a risk assessment company.

Website

flying_ltj
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 340 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 8:45:18 AM
Nice... A graphic without a source.

Guess someone had some extra time in their parent's basement over the weekend.

New_Guy
Male, 30-39, Europe
 401 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 6:50:45 AM
clearly you have angered god or Vishnu or Alan or who ever is running the universe now a days...

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 10221 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 5:37:32 AM
Americans caused it; they can reap the hurricane.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21790 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 1:57:00 AM
Um, @HG: What measure do you propose? Comparing damage is ANOTHER way of measuring, a way that people can relate to. It's not supposed to replace actual sciencey-stuff.
It's all relative, in context eh? 100 MPH winds in Florida are bad, 100 MPH winds in Minneapolis = DISASTER! The "raw numbers" don't take that into account.
Sandy wasn't THAT bad in terms of windspeed and rain and stuff, but it was BIG! HUGE! Impressivley so.

However, as you found out, it is a JOKE to claim AGW "caused Sandy" or is in ANY WAY "making storms worse".

@aj: that, and the Pro-AGWers crow about each and every one, lately. MS Paint= lolz! Nice!

@onoffonoffon: I'll bet you say that to ALL the boys...

onoffonoffon
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1776 Posts
Monday, November 05, 2012 12:47:41 AM
It's not just the force of the hurricane it's the size too.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9556 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:54:00 PM
I think the reason we think more are hitting recently, because TV coverage of hurricanes, and natural disasters in general, have gotten way way more dramatic.

They are ratings grabbers now, whereas a decade or so ago, it was part of the weather coverage on the local news.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9556 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:51:04 PM
10 major (Cat 2 or above) hurricanes hit the eastern seaboard (north of North Carolina)from 1954 to 1960. None have hit since.

We can do this both ways, all day.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4451 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:42:44 PM
Holy S.hit

So I was looking for data about how WAY more hurricanes have been hitting recently than in decades past.

I found this:
http://tinyurl.com/7m2n4

There were over 20 US Hurricanes in the 1870s, 1880s, 1890s, 1910s, and 1940s. Haven't been any decades with 20 since.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4451 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:35:33 PM
5Cats

"1954: 3 level 3+ hurricains plow into the USA, each one causing MORE damage than Sandy. Sandy is ranked #17 in terms of death & damage. Katrina was #4 on the list."

You have to admit using deaths and damage isn't a great barometer when comparing today to the 50s or the 20s. We are much better at predicting storms today. It is much easier to evacuate today. Structures are much better built to withstand storm damage today. Right?

I'm not saying your assessment is wrong but the only way to accurately compare hurricanes is to compare hurricanes (size, wind, speed, duration, etc) not what they do.

It is kind of like saying the smallpox disease in the 20s was worse than the smallpox disease today. Not true, we just have better defenses now.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11707 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:33:43 PM
If you changed "Meteorological (storms)" to "Cable TV Coverage of Meteorological (storms)," I think it would be much more accurate.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9556 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:28:20 PM
I made this in MS Paint.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21790 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:40:43 PM
Quetzalcoatl = Game Over!

Hey! I didn't type "database"! Stupid IAB censor...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21790 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:39:45 PM
CLIMATE CHANGE AND JEWS

@Solvent wins the thread! Hands down!

@student_Law: Earthquakes = climate change caused them? Humans did that? WOW! </sarc>

"It is pretty clear to us rational people that the hurricanes are because of gay marriage."

@HG You became a Muslim? oh no, Muslims believe EARTHQUAKES are cause by gayness. And women who expose their arms in public...

by destroying the One Ring at Mount Doom.

So says YOU @davymid, but I think they have the Ring hidden in Area 51! (nice try to win the thread, very funny indeed!)
(your comment I mean)

@Andrew155: True words, and well said! You too @artmunki.

Hell, where'd this thing even come from?

@Kangoala: @FoolsPrussia yanked it out of his... database!

On Dec 21 THIS bad boy is coming back:



5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21790 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 9:27:46 PM
Pure bunkum! "storms" could mean a LOT of things, it's the intensity that counts!
1954: 3 level 3+ hurricains plow into the USA, each one causing MORE damage than Sandy.

Sandy is ranked #17 in terms of death & damage. Katrina was #4 on the list.

(The list was adjusted for current populations and dollar values. 1,000 dead in 1922 = 2,000+ since the population is more than doubled < not quotes, paraphrased)

Temperature Extrenes? Based on what sized area? What measure?

Pure crapola, not your best @foolsprussia.

Xpekt
Male, 18-29, Canada
 134 Posts
Sunday, November 04, 2012 7:31:32 PM
I'm with Kangoala on this one. What is the point in even posting something like this up with no references or anything? Just goes to show you, people will believe anything.

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