 Reignblazer
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1583 Posts
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Wednesday, November 07, 2012 3:26:49 AM
@Papajon:
Nothing wrong with people having faith in whatever they choose to believe in to keep them getting out of bed each morning. It does however become a problem when these people start forcing their beliefs on others and actively impede scientific progress. That is why this discussion is paramount.
The burden of proof is on religious people. |
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 spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
889 Posts
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Monday, November 05, 2012 3:04:12 PM
papajon0s1, why did you begin your post by apologising? |
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spanerbulb
Male, 30-39, Europe
889 Posts
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Monday, November 05, 2012 3:01:14 PM
Heh heh, Turek got his ass handed to him there! |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5332 Posts
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Monday, November 05, 2012 6:51:41 AM
I mean, nothing at all, then why bother?
Your statement assumes that there *has* to be some purpose for life to be here, when there really doesn't. If you're looking for purpose while you're alive, how about finding your own purpose like enjoying life or helping the needy, instead of waiting for someone to tell you what your purpose is? Sheep gonna baaaaaaa. |
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 papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
236 Posts
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Monday, November 05, 2012 6:32:45 AM
Sorry, I don't believe anyone can either prove nor disprove the existence of God. I have to say though that if you do not believe in anything after this life, I mean, nothing at all, then why bother? I mean, really, why any of this? The difference is simple. If Hitchens is right we both end up in the same place, if not, we don't. Me? I'll choose to believe in God, thank you very much. |
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 Mikeoxsbiggg
Male, 30-39, Canada
749 Posts
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Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:02:11 AM
I like the title of that book. I have to buy it, just if only to have it on the shelf.
RIP Hitchens |
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LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
2493 Posts
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Sunday, November 04, 2012 8:11:17 AM
Turek was way out of his league. |
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 simbha
Male, 30-39, Southern US
397 Posts
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Sunday, November 04, 2012 5:50:26 AM
Once again, theological noncognitivism is the only winner. |
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 jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
2370 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:11:38 PM
For me, Hitchens won it.
if for nothing other than being way less annoying than Turek. |
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 kittilia
Female, 13-17, Western US
502 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:17:37 PM
For me, Hitchens won it. |
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carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
4273 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:12:42 PM
Smiley:
Is that so? Wow. I guess that settles it for all of us. And here we were thinking all this time! |
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 aroc91
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
119 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:58:47 PM
Did Turek really say if the day wasn't 24 hours or if the axial tilt wasn't 23.5 degrees, we wouldn't be here? That's complete bullpoo. There is absolutely nothing that implies, let alone supports that. |
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 thelonious
Male, 40-49, Southern US
3200 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:46:04 PM
Yeah, these people never get down to the heart of the matter and it always becomes a fight between "what's wrong with your religion and it's history" and "why can't you explain everything cosmologically already". It's retarded but might be good for some new comers to the question to get their feet wet. Otherwise, how the fluck does our current present time understanding of the creation of the universe have anything to do with answering the existence of god? You could take that reasoning and go back in time and have some very "successful" debates, as our scientific understanding is constantly growing.
Debate AD 1400
Believer:"How did the universe start?"
Debator:"Not sure yet."
Believer:"Fail! I won! Cause the correct answer is 'GOD'" |
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 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
6686 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:40:27 PM
2 hours just to prove god is a falsehood? Talk about inefficiency. |
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jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
2370 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:53:00 PM
Admittedly, the people at the university could've chosen a couple of better debaters. I just thought it was funny to see that Turek guy get destroyed over Hitchens' silly insulting arguments. |
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 TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
1222 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 5:53:52 PM
Yes, God is real. |
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 LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2696 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 4:21:30 PM
Took a while to get through this but it was good. |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2990 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:13:26 PM
I don't particularly care for Hitchens, but this Turek guy is too annoying to listen to, and that's got nothing to do with his philosophy. |
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klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
647 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 3:02:59 PM
Turek tries forcing religion into science, which doesn't work.
Hitchens debunks religion based off of the socially created Christian example, which is insulting. |
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 that1joshguy
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
183 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 2:12:58 PM
back on this bandwagon? |
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jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
2370 Posts
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Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:53:43 PM
Link: The Turek Vs. Hitchens Debate: Does God Exist? [Rate Link] - Long for I-A-B, but a great debate about the one question that's puzzled man since forever. |
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