 kcpd2050
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 327 Posts
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Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:04:04 AM
Stick and move baby. |
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 mrbrainiac2u
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
24 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:36:43 PM
The police protocol of dominate and control is in and of itself Fascist. This is attractive to the type of people that become cops. It allows them to vent and express their violence onto others in a plauseable and deniable way. In this way they can perpetrate and yet still be considered a "hero". (Psychological profile). |
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 DFWBrysco
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
219 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:55:10 PM
I agree with Forplay - it was resisting arrest. As to him being there legally or not, there is no way to tell since there is no audio to know what the conversation was.
However, this was an overly excessive use of force. Like that naked college kid that got shot and died, the cops could have (and should have) used a taser or pepper spray on him. Physical beating should only occur if the suspect takes it to that level. |
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 MightyPeanut
Male, 30-39, Canada
407 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:24:42 PM
13 cops : 1 unarmed man......Ridiculous. |
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 Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1525 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:48:58 AM
In Nazi Germany they were "Just following orders.".They had no orders to beat this man down. |
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 Palfas
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
410 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 11:35:21 AM
@indisguise
If you had permission to sleep someplace and some cops showed up and tried to arrest you, you'd just say "okey dokey, take me away"? I really doubt it. Cops are not perfect people and they aren't always right. This was abuse, plain and simple.
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That's what the courts are for.
There was no abuse here, plain and simple. Once they place you under arrest, you comply, period. If you fight, you get beat. You work it all out afterward, using the courts if needed. That's the beauty of our system.
I hope next time you run into the cops they beat the snot out of you after you don't comply |
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 TheOrigin
Male, 18-29, Europe
336 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:06:53 AM
1. that cop look like Al Bundy.
2. why are they all so fat?
3. way overboard, not trying to pacify just beat the crap out of the guy who is half his size. Or better said, half his weight.
In this case, I'm not on the side of those cops. Was way, WAY out of proportion. |
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 Forplay2k
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
173 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:23:59 AM
He was resisting arrest. But he may have been there legally, if that was the case I would also. He pulled up he's pants after he was shoved and they slid down. And he do not put up he's hand till the cop tried to go golden gloves on him, and then tried to relax till he was hit in the jaw. I cop was using him as a punching bag and not trying to use a Submission Hold on him. Bad cop or poorly trained take your pick. The male police officer Escalate it and was not trying to disarm the situation. |
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9506 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:03:44 AM
That's no reason to use the guy as a punch bag
That's still no reason to keep resisting after you've been outmatched.
why was that female officer trying to stick her nightstick up his @ss?
When did this happen? |
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 Lele13
Female, 18-29, Western US
7 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 9:02:58 AM
all the police were overweight
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youlikeicecr
Male, 30-39, Europe
235 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 8:57:37 AM
"I find it rather odd that the synagogue would protest someone using their space for sleep. Nevertheless this guy was resisting." - That's no reason to use the guy as a punch bag and why was that female officer trying to stick her nightstick up his @ss? |
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9506 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:48:15 AM
I find it rather odd that the synagogue would protest someone using their space for sleep. Nevertheless this guy was resisting. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:14:56 AM
(well, at least it was until you killed all those Native American Braves....if only they'd done what they were told they'd no doubt have been fine, eh?)
ROFL!!! Ya they started being killed right after we declared independence there was no French and Indian War. Now tell me how you like to pay taxes to a royal family that got it's fortune through generations of genocide on multiple cultures.... |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 6:02:04 AM
I'd also recommend you don't wiggle away from an officer and enter a boxing stance. They'll see that as a threat and beat the crap out of you until you stop. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:58:31 AM
@MacThunderKhunt
What are your thoughts on being the most surveillanced country on the planet? Or are you that brainwashed? Funny how you think police over there don't beat the crap out of people facts show otherwise.
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 avail9988
Male, 18-29, Australia
633 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:44:34 AM
Dogs |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
26240 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:10:30 AM
Yeah, he was resisting, but aren't the cops supposed to be trained in how to
deal with that using "minimal" force? It looked more like they were enjoying the
brawl.
Sadly, many high school bullies choose law enforcement as a career.
Even more sad is that they pass the psych screening. |
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 som-tam
Male, 18-29, Asia
395 Posts
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Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:03:40 AM
this guy has the classic 'israeli-just-out-of-the-army-look' if that is the case then his 'aggressive' body language could be an israeli being an israeli. they are always very animated when they talk, more so than italians. |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8769 Posts
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 11:13:42 PM
Guys:
1:22. Fists up. Pulls pants up to gain range of motion. READY TO FIGHT!
You do not do this against a cop, EVER!
If he is detaining you unlawfully, allow it, and SUE THEM! YOU WILL WIN! |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8945 Posts
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:50:13 PM
It may have been a bit over the top, but the guy clearly was resisting. Just remember, folks, cops aren't paid to fight fair; they're paid to win. |
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 Kain1
Male, 18-29, Europe
1309 Posts
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:15:28 PM
1:22... that's not what you do when you're trying to subdue somebody. that's what you do when you're trying to beat the crap out of them. |
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 indisguise
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
267 Posts
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:00:15 PM
Thanks for that link trippyhippy. I'm in agreement with MacGuffin and piperfawn on this one.
@ Lebowski, Auburnjunky, Reciprocity, RobSwindol and CaptKangaroo - Of course the man was agitated! He had permission to be there and (although we don't have audio) was likely trying to tell the cops that. As such, they had no business trying to haul him off to jail - he hadn't done anything wrong. A simple phone call to the property owner could have confirmed that. Why should he have allowed them to arrest him? If you had permission to sleep someplace and some cops showed up and tried to arrest you, you'd just say "okey dokey, take me away"? I really doubt it. Cops are not perfect people and they aren't always right. This was abuse, plain and simple. |
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 Shelworth
Male, 50-59, Western US
218 Posts
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:58:10 PM
Wow, MacGuffin I had no idea they were taking him away to be gassed in a gas chamber! I thought they were arresting him for trespassing. You are so right, he should have fought harder than he did to prove your point! |
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 piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3201 Posts
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:28:32 PM
Well, lot of people here thinks that what this cops have done is legit...sooo can you explain to me why they are under investigation and one have been placed on modified assignment right now? |
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 Lebowski42
Male, 18-29, Western US
65 Posts
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Tuesday, October 16, 2012 5:26:13 PM
It's impossible to know the full story here, but I would not consider that police brutality. The subjects body language was confrontational and he repeatedly extended his arms towards the officers and the other citizen. As the subject became clearly increasingly agitated the non-officer retreated indicated he did not feel safe. The officer used neutral body language and calming hand gestures. AFTER his partner attempted to place the subject under arrest the officer put up his hands and the subject did not back down. The officer did his job period. |
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