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Homeowner & Squatter Forced To Live Together

Hits: 11424 | Rating: (3.3) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: kitteh9lives
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greenbasterd
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2288 Posts
Monday, October 15, 2012 10:52:25 AM
there so many ways to get a squatter out.. i've done it.. you just threatin them... trust me people don't like living in fear...

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12739 Posts
Monday, October 15, 2012 10:22:56 AM
Just keep slipping laxatives into all her food and drink the problem will resolve itself.

zombunny
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2524 Posts
Monday, October 15, 2012 9:12:29 AM
I don't understand why the police can't remove her, especially because she seems to be mentally ill.

jclv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 185 Posts
Sunday, October 14, 2012 4:24:03 PM
Hello 911? Someone broke into my home and shot the squatter living here and ran out the back!

Problem solved.

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 833 Posts
Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:07:39 PM
oh give me a break people saying this is an entitlement issue. FFS. From the articles i'm reading she was paying rent to a previous owner no one informed her of any issue, she couldn't get a hold of anyone and this whole thing got blown out of proportion. Uneducated idiots on both sides here. The buywr doesn't seem very savy nor does the person in the house. EIther way there's no ONE person to blame for this. A lot of guilty parties involved

GasMaskKid
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 694 Posts
Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:33:10 AM
this would make the best sitcom

chance13
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 221 Posts
Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:07:01 AM
Well there's a lot here that didn't get reported.

First, the squatter was renting the home from the owner earlier. Then, at the end of the rental agreement, someone broke into the house and cut out all the radiators, which the squatter replaced because she couldn't reach the owner.

After putting a construction lien on the house for her expenses, she still couldn't reach the owner...for more than 6 months...so she turned the house in as abandoned.

If you hold a lien on a house in Detroit that is declared abandoned, you can have it deeded to you...which is what was going on.

This is all because the house was in the final steps of being declared abandoned and the legal status is still up in the air.

Really very stupid on the part of the owner for disappearing for so long.

dmoltrup
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 151 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:06:44 PM
There is a guy in New York City that gives classes, teaching homeless people how to move in to abandoned houses and apartments. They learn how to get the utilities turned on and possibly eventually OWN the property. Most places have laws that if a place is abandoned and you improve the property, after a period of time you can take ownership.

kree_
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 193 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:28:19 PM
Ferdyfred, she did rent it out. to the "squatter"

EmagehtmaI
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 186 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:27:08 PM
I have an idea. Wait until the squatter leaves (she has to leave SOMETIME, right?), then change the locks and dump her stuff on the lawn. That's essentially what happened to the homeowner, so I can't imagine a situation where the squatter would be able to take legal action against the homeowner, as she squatter obviously won't be able to produce anything that proves she has a legal right to be there (like a lease or a deed) aside from her word. Problem solved? I'm sure there's something I'm overlooking, though.

CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 4320 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:57:48 PM
turdburglar
There's more to the story than the reporter is stating.

Like I said, the person labeled as a squatter would have
to have gotten or given the address to city for
nuisance abatement.
From the city's perspective, the house may have seemed
abandoned.

So, she may literally be in danger of losing a house
because she wasn't cutting the grass and receiving the
mail.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 8240 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:33:23 PM
If she was going to away that long really should have rented it out for a while
She did sound a bit dumb on the other hand

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3059 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:28:52 AM

robosnitz - Dayum that's one effed up story. I suppose no good deed goes unpunished.

CodeJockey - I don't know about detroit, do they have different laws about this than everywhere else? Either way, this lady seems like a dim bulb. Who simply leaves their house abandoned for that long? Maybe she should be lucky that someone kept her house from being destroyed by neighborhood kids. Regardless, detroit has some messed up laws, and I agree with what oldollie said...

CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 4320 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:13:00 AM
"why is there a law that actually protects squatters in this god forsaken city?"
Imagine you have a city filled with homeless, jobless people
at the same time there is a large number of abandoned homes.
The times may improve but, no one remembers to repair the ordinance.

jfactor
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 143 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:17:57 AM
Just start being a really crappy room mate. Be crass, rude, harassing, obscene, etc.

DFWBrysco
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 285 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:58:59 AM
Angillon - thanks for the info - I didn't know that they were clearing that up over there.

One of the difficulties here in the US (don't know about Europe) that actually is in favor of the squatters is property abandonment laws. The time limits vary from state to state, but in most cases I have heard about this happening, generally the actually homeowner absent from the property for a minimum of a year. This muddies the water a bit (hence, not being able to just throw the squatter out) because the owner has to prove that they have not abandoned the property.

Ideally, if she was going to be gone longer than six months, she should have sub-leased the house to someone; this would have ensured no squatters and she wouldn't have to go to court to prove she didn't abandon the property.

hauswyfe
Female, 30-39, Southern US
 275 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 7:46:55 AM
Don't the trespassing laws apply? I'm stumped.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10542 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:09:24 AM
why is there a law that actually protects squatters in this god forsaken city?


Probably for the same reasons there used to be such laws in England - they were intended to protect tenants. Laws to do that are unfortunately necessary and it's difficult to make laws that will protect tenants and which can't be abused by squatters.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10542 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:06:45 AM
It is (from what I understand and have read) much more difficult in England, where the laws are more in the shades of gray and owners go through a great deal of difficulty in getting rid of squatters.


It was, for a while. Essentially, some squatters misused laws intended to protect people renting property from abuse from the property owner. Squatting was always illegal in England, but it used to be a matter of civil law, not criminal law. Civil law takes longer. A squatter with a good knowledge of the relevant parts of the law could spin the process out for quite a while. That's no longer true - it's now a matter of criminal law, which means that the police are involved. They can force entry, arrest squatters and take them away.

Sistarose
Female, 30-39, Australia
 371 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 5:04:37 AM
Ok robo I am officially stunned. Sucks on a tremendous level.

SCfan
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 1823 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 3:48:32 AM
That is the entitlement mentality of Detroit. Why a person would want to live in that crack-whore infested cess pool is beyond me.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 10269 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 2:03:25 AM
Is this the American dream? Find a vacant home, break in, change the locks and borrow against it?

robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 2752 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:14:03 AM
live like that.

robosnitz
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 2752 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 1:11:48 AM
@miasmaat-When I had my ex-wife and kids stay with me in Florida for a week, my ex changed her address legally without my knowledge. At the end of the week, she started her crazy crap,so I called the PD to have her removed.They said they couldn't because she legally lived there now.They said " If she hangs her toothbrush in your bathroom and gets her mail at my apartment, she was a resident. A few months later,she got drunk and attacked me, physically. I called the law and I WAS ARRESTED for domestic battery and thrown in jail.After I was bailed out, I couldn't go back to my home because of a restraining order.I was homeless and wound up losing my wallpaper installation business I ran from my home (since I couldn't retrieve my tools and supplies. She,in the meantime brought in some dude, and they sold all my belongings.It was all legal and there was NOTHING I could do about it.I let her into my home,because her and the kids became homeless originally, and I didn't want my kids to

CodeJockey
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 4320 Posts
Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:43:56 AM
"So if I wait until people go on vacation"
I've actually heard of that happening here.
Never heard of anyone losing their home permanently, though.

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