 DracObi
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 288 Posts
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Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:06:37 PM
i cant believe people are actually taking this seriously. The electoral college alows 270 votes total devided amongst the 50 states. How many votes per state is based on the State's poipulation, but it is set up in a way that NO combination of any kind can result in a tie. It is not physically possible. However, the college is flawed, as in 2004, George W. Bush had fewer citizen votes than his opponent, but won based on the electoral college. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5290 Posts
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Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:43:58 AM
The problem is not with the Electoral College. The problem is that we have completely lost our grasp on the concept that we are in fact a union of 50 sovereign states, not a 300-million-person mob.
"It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." -Unknown |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5290 Posts
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Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:39:37 AM
Why on earth wouldn't you just go with popular vote if there's an electoral college tie?
Obama/Ryan 2012! |
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 drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
1404 Posts
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Thursday, October 11, 2012 3:40:48 AM
It America, so they'll put in whoever they are told to. |
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 Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
279 Posts
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Thursday, October 11, 2012 1:44:49 AM
Whole point of this is to ensure the little states aren't ignored. He said it himself big states have majority of population, why bother doing anything for the minority when you can just aid California Texas etc and damn the rest won't lose votes for it... |
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onoffonoffon
Male, 30-39, Western US
1254 Posts
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Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:22:40 AM
Actually it makes sense. In the past the individual states had more pull. The interests of the federal government was always secondary to the interests of the states. It wasn't until Lincoln squashed states rights so as to ensure that the states would always submit to the fed and thus bringing our country to the poor condition it is now. |
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 Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
1159 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:23:43 PM
The electoral system in America is retarded and has no place in the 21st century with speed of light communications. The white house and SecState love to try and bang the drum about democracy rules OK (ignoring the fact that some cultures are not mature enough for it yet), but the American domestic system simply isn't democratic (ignoring the fact there's only 2 parties)... |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:45:35 PM
I believe the electors should be independent, the 'winner take all' states should be like Nebraska and Maine. As it stands the inner cities are granted way too much power in an election and then they take all of the states electors as well.
The electoral map should look more like this.
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8767 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:37:18 PM
The problem is not with the Electoral College. The problem is that we have completely lost our grasp on the concept that we are in fact a union of 50 sovereign states, not a 300-million-person mob. |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1077 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 7:59:40 PM
Well it's not "the system's" fault that it's still in place, it's ours. The system made sense in the 1700's when it took days to ride across the country on horseback and information traveled slowly.
However, America has proven that it is lazy and the citizens don't demand a change. You can't just sit around and expect some third party to solve the problem for you, you have to get active and build a grass roots effort to reform the political system. Otherwise, it will never happen. |
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 HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2913 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:06:25 PM
More centuries old rules that are no longer the right way to do things. |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1077 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:18:41 PM
Currently, the data on Reclearpolitics indicates that Romney might manage to win the popular vote, while Obama will surely get an electoral victory.
I think this could spark a debate about reform. It would then be a bipartisan issue, now that both sides got shafted by it within the past 12 years. |
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bataleon27
Male, 18-29, Europe
1120 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:17:41 PM
Whatever you do, don't form a coalition... |
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 kitteh9lives
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
978 Posts
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Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:40:22 PM
Link: What If the Presidential Election is a Tie? [Rate Link] - What happens if the Electoral College is tied? Hmmm maybe a old fashioned duel would solve the problem. |
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