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Why Obama Now

Hits: 6833 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: madest
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SavageChef
Female, 50-59, Western US
 2238 Posts
Monday, October 22, 2012 12:34:01 AM

And since we've had Barack (It's not my fault, it's the fault of that guy before me)Obama, things have swirled further down the drain. NOBAMA NOW in 2012.

OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
 548 Posts
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 12:28:56 PM
Nasty

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:42:37 AM
quote]Private industry would have never built Hoover dam or the Smithsonian


Right because the Hoover dam caused a LOT of damage to the ecosystem.

There are indeed privately owned and operated museums which can match the spectacle and grandeur of the Smithsonian.

Our taxes pay to keep our food safe our water drinkable and our air breathable.


With questionable results.

You're buying into the cries that "regulations are hurting us" from fortune 500 companies that don't want to buy scrubbers for their smoke stacks.


It's actually small businesses that are most affected by regulations. It's also not uncommon for Fortune 500 companies to push for MORE regulations (see SOPA and PIPA).

Get a brain stop being a parrot.


You should take your own advice.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:39:00 AM
Factually government has shrank under Obama but lets not allow the facts dilute your message that big government is bad. I don't like everything our government does. The never ending wars. Flying killer robots, killing people 1/2 way around the world without due process. Guantanamo. Spending my tax dollars locking up people for smoking pot, spying on Americans, the list is long.


Considering Obama is doing all of that and more, you've just contradicted yourself.

Private industry will not repair bridges, build electrical grids that reach remote towns, They won't send satellites up to pin point our location and give us access to this equipment for free.


More BS.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6459 Posts
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 7:15:28 AM
Factually government has shrank under Obama but lets not allow the facts dilute your message that big government is bad. I don't like everything our government does. The never ending wars. Flying killer robots, killing people 1/2 way around the world without due process. Guantanamo. Spending my tax dollars locking up people for smoking pot, spying on Americans, the list is long.. But we need government. Private industry will not repair bridges, build electrical grids that reach remote towns, They won't send satellites up to pin point our location and give us access to this equipment for free. Private industry would have never built Hoover dam or the Smithsonian. Our taxes pay to keep our food safe our water drinkable and our air breathable. You're buying into the cries that "regulations are hurting us" from fortune 500 companies that don't want to buy scrubbers for their smoke stacks. Get a brain stop being a parrot.

OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
 548 Posts
Monday, October 08, 2012 9:32:35 PM
So, you don't think there is any such thing as big government today? You would be open to more government in our lives? How much would be enough?

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Monday, October 08, 2012 2:40:46 PM
The "big government" BS that's been spoon-fed to the gullible has taken hold and they let us know that over the internet.


Just wait until the govt confiscates your Xbox and installs cameras in your apartment for "the greater good". Hopefully then you'll realize the concept of "big govt" isn't BS.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6459 Posts
Monday, October 08, 2012 1:46:10 PM
Government is a necessity. The "big government" BS that's been spoon-fed to the gullible has taken hold and they let us know that over the internet. Thanks government!

OutWest
Male, 50-59, Western US
 548 Posts
Monday, October 08, 2012 10:20:05 AM
I can't believe that so many of us think that Government is inherently good, and we need more of it. Whether it's a large corporation, or the government, it can and will be corrupted by humans that seek to gain either financially, or in power.

Why can't we have a system that protects us not only from both the wealthy and their power, but also big government and it's power? Neither believes in our individual freedom. But instead how they can change the system to benefit themselves.


tatripp
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1201 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:38:05 PM
Too bad obama can only speak good when he reads it.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 4:12:20 PM
Nobody likes a blabbing incoherent man-child either madest

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6459 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 10:33:27 AM
Bitter old man is not an attractive persona CJ.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17182 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 10:08:32 AM
madest: Because no one understands you, that means you're not making sense.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6459 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 9:22:48 AM
Here we go again... Cajun, Just because you can't understand me, doesn't mean I'm not making sense.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:54:38 AM
madest Jon Stewart didn't say that to justify the CRA or the GSEs. He was merely pointing out how incredibly misleading Romney's 47% remark was.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6459 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 8:20:42 AM
@elkingo, "Why is it that if you take advantage of a corporate tax break you're a smart businessman, but if you take advantage of something so you don't go hungry, you're a moocher?" ~ Jon Stewart

You should watch The Rumble 2012. I'm sure it's on youtube. Perhaps you'll see a bit of yourself on Bullpoo Mountain.

elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3418 Posts
Sunday, October 07, 2012 5:35:25 AM
I think it is hilarious that democrats think people are too stupid to take care of themselves (i.e. making laws that govern every aspect of life [healthcare, home-buying, education, etc]); and then blame those same stupid people when something like the housing market collapse occurs.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 8:53:55 PM
@Tekinette: In 1992, the government imposed "affordable housing" requirements on the GSE's (Fannie and Freddie). This forced the GSE's, who had only been required to buy prime mortgages, to purchase subprime loans at a rate of 30%. This, of course, caused a decline in underwriting standards.

The Clinton era raised the quota requirements to 50%, and Bush raised it again to 55%. This means that over half of the mortgages bought by the GSE's were issued to borrowers under the median income level.

By the time of the collapse, HALF of all mortgages in the US were subprime or low quality. 70% of those were owned by the GSE's.

Therefore, I cannot see any reason to doubt that the GSE's created most of the demand for weak loans.

There, I didn't even mention the CRA once. Would you like some more education about governmental intervention in economics? We could talk about The New Deal.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17182 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 7:07:08 PM
Tekinette: Evidently you haven't learned what happened with those sub-prime loans. Those loans were bundled with other people's mortgages and sold on the open market. When one or two mortgages failed the whole bundle of mortgages was tainted and that is what lead to the implosion.

People who had paid their mortgage on time and were never late ended up loosing their home because their sub-prime neighbors were foreclosed on. Eventually all the sub-prime mortgages where re-examined and since most of them didn't qualify they were tainted as well.

House values fell precipitately leaving most newer mortgage holders underwater, owing more than their homes were worth. Those underwater mortgages couldn't be refinanced and lead to even more foreclosures and even lower housing values.

This cascade failure was due to several factors, but it wouldn't have happened without the deregulation that Clinton signed into law and the community reinvestment act.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 7:02:19 PM
That was all perfectly reasonable, logical and sensible. It is beyond me how the right-wingnuts can constantly deny what is so patently obvious to most thinking people.


Never before has any pair of sentences lowered the bar so much. It is beyond me how left-wingnuts continue to support Obama despite the most important promises he broke.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4652 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:47:19 PM
Tekinette-" If you're talking about the Community Reinvestment Act,"

And the Alternative Mortgage Transactions Parity Act, And when HUD mandated that 42% of the mortgages be issued to borrowers whose household income was below the median, then upped it to 50%, then 52%.

"families were 'enticed', and sometimes just plained 'tricked' into buying homes they could not afford."??

It's the damned banks!! Held them down and forced them to sign a mortgage at gunpoint...them bastads. It couldn't have had anything to do with the government MANDATING that banks grant mortgages to people who could not afford it

Just like The Simpsons and Family Guy, funny, and for the same reasons.

Enjin
Male, 30-39, Asia
 790 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:27:22 PM
"An animated Obama speech by the animator of The Simpsons & Family Guy."

I didn't watch the video because it's about politics, but I'm pretty blown away to learn that Simpsons and Family Guy are animated by one guy. I always figured it was a team of people.

Tekinette
Male, 30-39, Europe
 270 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:08:56 PM
Nice video.

Human/CrakrJak: If you're talking about the Community Reinvestment Act, about 1 in 4 sub-prime loans were regulated by it... That's hardly what caused the collapse, it's a lot more complex.

hauswyfe
Female, 30-39, Southern US
 275 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:33:13 PM
Great video! Thank you!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17182 Posts
Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:34:28 PM
HumanAction: Human is correct, The liberals forced bad home loans onto the market in the name of 'equal opportunity', aka reverse racism.

In many cases people never even had to show proof of income or employment. The bankers went along with it because it helped boost their bonus checks. When the auditor and regulators rang the alarm, back as early as 2005, they were berated as being racist, dismissed as liars and told there was nothing wrong. (I have youtube video of some of this if anyone is interested in seeing it)

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