 InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
 329 Posts
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Monday, October 08, 2012 4:53:48 PM
Er, you can't logic with religion. |
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 AtheistAlien
Male, 30-39, Western US
772 Posts
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Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:05:08 AM
I have prayed to a milk jug before and asked it for boobies. I then received boobies! ALL HAIL THE MILK JUG! |
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 robthelurker
Male, 18-29, Canada
792 Posts
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Wednesday, October 03, 2012 9:39:29 PM
holy crap!! that dudes broken vertebrae was just miraculously healed?? some one should check that water. |
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TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
1184 Posts
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Wednesday, October 03, 2012 7:19:45 PM
HolyGod: You know, some times its best to just not say anything at all when you don't know enough about the topic.. but they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Maybe you can prove them wrong? |
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 HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2911 Posts
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Wednesday, October 03, 2012 2:10:38 PM
CrakrJak
"Perhaps you are, but the real GOD is not evil."
Have you actually read the bible?
How do you get more evil than KILLING EVERY LIVING PERSON AND ANIMAL ON THE PLANET except for a few in a boat? You can say that some were sinful, but all certainly weren't. There were babies and children who died painfully,scared and alone. If God wanted to reset the world he could have just had everyone die in their sleep peacefully. He chose to DROWN them.
Obviously that is predicated on the bible being true, which I personally don't believe.
"If God was evil he wouldn't have offered us salvation through the sacrifice of his son Jesus Christ."
Salvation from whom? HIMSELF! He could've given that without creating a son for the sole purpose of being brutally tortured to death. Again, pretty evil. |
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 shaustin
Male, 18-29, Canada
143 Posts
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Wednesday, October 03, 2012 10:05:48 AM
@CrakrJak thats so true! if god was evil he wouldn't have given us Santa Clause or the easter bunny either! the church invented the word sin and then offered people salvation from said sin... sounds legit |
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 wolladude
Male, 30-39, Europe
324 Posts
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Wednesday, October 03, 2012 1:21:34 AM
I've know some people who were "incompatible with life" that still lives on..... |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:38:41 PM
HG: "...god is evil"
Perhaps you are, but the real GOD is not evil. Mankind's sin is evil and that's our own undoing.
If God was evil he wouldn't have offered us salvation through the sacrifice of his son Jesus Christ. |
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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2911 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:56:14 PM
honkeylips
"I once got shot in the face with a shotgun and I had no head, but I prayed about the problem and now everything is better."
I prayed for an extra head just so in case one ever gets shot with a shotgun I'm OK. |
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 honkeylips
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
1392 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:38:19 PM
I once got shot in the face with a shotgun and I had no head, but I prayed about the problem and now everything is better. |
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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2911 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:42:35 PM
bigfatdynamo
"You have a strong notion of God's sovereignty in accordance with Calvinism. I wonder if you were raised as such and have reacted against it."
I wasn't raised anywhere near a church of any kind. My views on God come from my experiences and reading the bible. I just have never understood how anyone can read the bible and come away with a belief "that God is good".
If you read the bible as a series of allegorical parables and life lessons, in which case I guess I can see that point. However if you take the bible verbatim and literally god is evil. |
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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2911 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:37:19 PM
TheGuySmiley
"Prayer is always a good thing!"
So are cupcakes and kittens. But they don't cure cancer either. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5274 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:29:44 PM
Just don't let it be your only hope..
Exactly. Everyone knows that's Obi-Wan. |
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TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
1184 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:26:19 PM
Prayer is always a good thing! |
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CreamK
Male, 30-39, Europe
379 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 1:25:43 PM
Just don't let it be your only hope.. |
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 bigfatdynamo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
258 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 12:36:13 PM
@patchgrabber - You misunderstand. I want people to hope, regardless of whether it it is in the God I serve.
@HolyGod - Your argument is one that I struggle with everyday. However, If I truly believe that God is good I must therefore behave that way. Hence I must stop evil where I can and do good where I can. Not because I must, no. I do it because I believe God has transformed me. You have a strong notion of God's sovereignty in accordance with Calvinism. I wonder if you were raised as such and have reacted against it. I would recommend reading about Open Theism. It may provide a more rational point of view concerning what God can do and does.
My conviction is different than yours. I will continue to act on my convictions though my faith is eschewed as the new stupidity. It was considered such in antiquity, too. |
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:46:44 AM
elkingo: I'm no evangelist and don't try to convert anyone.
That was said in jest, but he took it personally.
I could try and explain 'unanswered' prayer, but having done so before on several occasions, I know it falls on deaf ears.
For what it's worth though, Read Matthew chapter 6. |
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 ruthless1990
Female, 18-29, Europe
2989 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:39:39 AM
my mum was healed in Church, she had broken her back and was in a wheel chair. Now she walks around like a normal person with no pain, even though the doctors said that would never happen.
but anyway, I believe in miracles, I don't give a crap if you don't aha, its not like you not believing can put my mum back in a wheelchair. |
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 OldOllie
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
8727 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:22:18 AM
HG, Robert Heinlein said it best:
"Man rarely, if ever, creates a god superior to himself. Most gods have the manners of a spoiled child." |
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 AGit
Male, 30-39, Europe
641 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:56:03 AM
Granville must be a Marvel character, no other explanation |
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 slut_etta
Female, 50-59, Southern US
2139 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:52:43 AM
deluded freaks. |
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 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2862 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:34:21 AM
Individually we should allow people to act in such a manner as to give them comfort and hope. Should we encourage this behaviour as a substitute for actual help- no, of course not. For some institutions it does seem the boundaries are blurred. |
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pumba62
Male, 40-49, Canada
651 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:25:15 AM
incompatible with life.....wtf |
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 muffalletta
Male, 18-29, Southern US
547 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:35:19 AM
here sheep..... |
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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2911 Posts
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Tuesday, October 02, 2012 7:26:55 AM
bigfatdynamo
"We prayed for God's will above all else"
I don't get what you are saying. You wanted God's will to be done. But that is what was happening already. That was what was going to happen no matter what. So what did praying change? |
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