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German Police Only Fired 85 Bullets In 2011

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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5689 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:22:52 AM
@McGovern: Joke around all you want, it still doesn't change the fact that whatever your country is doing is clearly not working and needs to be changed. Norway has a tenth the incarceration rate as the US (per 100,000) so instead of mocking perhaps you should take notes. Yes, the US and Norway face very different policing challenges, but incarceration is a huge problem in the US and if those prisons actually rehabilitated people then it wouldn't be so bad, but...

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13213 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:13:47 AM
Gee you guyz is right we should give killer a 20 year sentence in a hotel suite like Norwayz!! What could go wrong! Oh wait mabey we should drop all our gangbangers in Germany and see what happens instead Europe being so perfect I'm sure they can fix it....

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5689 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:02:52 AM
@creamk: I recently watched a documentary on the prison "business" in the U.S. One guy got it, he said (regarding how to deal with criminals): If the only tool in your belt is a hammer then every problem looks like a nail. In the U.S. the only tool they have is incarceration so the solution to every problem looks like incarceration.

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 973 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:48:42 AM
We have learned a lot from the USA (really, we have and are grateful). Isn't it time USA starts learning from others?

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 973 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:43:57 AM
And how did you get those gangs in the first place? Was it.. wait for it... inequality?

What country jails the most people? The answer never has been longer jail sentences but rehabilitation. The more i see and hear about US values, the more it comes to one thing: me me me. Criminal: shoot them. Sick: let them die. Poor: it's their own fault their poor, make money instead. Giving a fair chance to all citizens: not in a million years. Second chance: no, absolutely no.

This has Ayn Rand written all over it, it has failed big time and worse: it has ingrained a whole generation or two into completely skewed values.

We are altruistic animals, we tend to help without gaining from it. It's in our nature, blocking it will lead to a sick society. Fear of anything and everything around just because (you think) everyone else is as selfish as you and will kill to get what they want.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5689 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:58:28 AM
@McGovern: Per capita is also a simple concept, but none of you were saying anything about the amount of guns or bullets, crime or violence, only population. Those other things are separate arguments that may correlate with population in your case but are by no means causal.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13213 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:55:03 AM
@patchgrabber

More people, more guns, more bullets, more gangs, more crime, more violenece it's a pretty simple concept.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5689 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:39:15 AM
@kja1995, @mcgovern, @crakr: What the hell does population have to do with anything? So Germany has about a fifth of your population. They have much less than a fifth of the amount of bullets fired by police. Seriously I'm not defending Germany or deriding you guys but that argument is nonsense.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5689 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:36:53 AM
Evil_Eye: I've seen European news, it's most the boring damn sh|t ever, it's like listening to someone read the dictionary in monotone voices. You could use it to lull babies to sleep.

Sorry but your European type of newscasts just wouldn't make it here. They show part of them on PBS stations here and they have lower ratings than a color test pattern.


Wow, Crakr is defending his country's BS "news"? Here's a tidbit of information for you CJ, news is SUPPOSED to be boring. Why do you need to be entertained by news? News is supposed to inform, not entertain. Look at all the really good, well-respected news agencies out there like the BBC and they all have one thing in common: they're BORING. Wanting entertaining news with opinions just shows that you are a mindless sheep that needs keys jingled in front of him every 5 minutes so you don't go staring at a butterfly or something.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13213 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:05:41 AM
The crips, bloods, MS-13, Latin Kings and Mexican Mafia roll real hard in Germany huh?.....

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13213 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:02:25 AM
this*

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13213 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:02:11 AM
Was the originally submitted by piper got his name written all over it.......

Now let's compare apples and oranges.....

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 973 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:37:07 AM
Crakrjak and oldollie have a hard time to justify all this... The reason people get shot by police in USA is because everyone knows they get shot, they arm them selves, ready to shoot back. They also know that once caught, they'll go to jail for ridiculous lengths, basically destroying their future completely andwhen released, they have nothing, no jobs, no social security, no healthcare and most likely have to go right back in... When cornered like that, i would start shooting back. It's desperation.

Equality promotes health, safety and most importantly: happiness. I haven't heard happiness being any kind of value, it's secondary and comes from wealth, nothing else can make you happy. It's money. Or more likely, money that others don't have, that equals happiness in US? Because the more i see, the more this comes forward: you need to be better than your neighbor, richer, more cars, more status, the more they envy, the more happiness you'll receive.

Why do you fear eq

Modwain
Male, 30-39, Europe
 299 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:21:30 AM
hmm, more violent related deaths in the US compared to Europe. More poverty in the US compared to Europe. Healthcare is a lot more expensive in the US then it is in Europe. Military spending in the US seems more important then scholing.
But as soon aw people suggest that socialism may be a better way to go then capitalism, that person must be an idiot.. just to end this though, most goverments in europe are socialistic. its more then a political ideal is a mind set. it boils down to 'together we are responcible for eachother' it most simple of terms.
And i am sure someone will post how corruption is part of socialism.. It isnt though, its part of any system made by humans, including socialism, but also including capitalism.

SnoopyBG
Male, 18-29, Europe
 645 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:39:33 AM
@CrakrJak
We are sorry to disappoint you. It's just that we can't get enough people to conduct mass murders every week.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 9986 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:39:48 AM
Andrew155
This was a routine burglary report,
just sent two bobbies to have a looksee
it was a trap by some arsehole who said he wanted to be a legend by killing cops, who shot them and threw a grenade to finish them off. The guy who did it had a £50,00 reward on his head, but the locals were too scared to grass him up.Oddly enough he was on bail???

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 9986 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:30:49 AM
OldOllie
you go old son!!!
dont use bullets too often, mow em down with tiger tanks!!

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:16:39 AM
Evil_Eye: I've seen European news, it's most the boring damn sh|t ever, it's like listening to someone read the dictionary in monotone voices. You could use it to lull babies to sleep.

Sorry but your European type of newscasts just wouldn't make it here. They show part of them on PBS stations here and they have lower ratings than a color test pattern.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 12:09:35 AM
Considering America has 9 times the population of Germany, Ultra-violent drug cartels along the southern border, gangs, meth, crack and illegal aliens.

Evil_Eye
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1446 Posts
Monday, September 24, 2012 10:14:30 PM
@Andrew155: Fox News is a example. That is why I said "like" Fox News.

I have been to America a few times and I always noticed that the news there is a lot different from other countries I been to. It is hard to explain... it felt more like a TV show and less like the news.

The music, the choice of news, the key words they keep throwing in, the very opinionated views... A lot of people rely on the news to know what is going on, so having it try to tell me what I must feel rather then just give the facts and let me pick is weird. Like I said, hard to explain it.

Well anyway, if where I get my world views keeps pushing me to be scared of everything, then I would freek out over little things just because I heard on the news something bad happened in the situation I would be in... so the police would think of all the gun crimes and hold that trigger till it clicks empty.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13352 Posts
Monday, September 24, 2012 9:52:47 PM
Wow! This ALMOST makes up for the 5 billion bullets they fired from 1939 to 1945.

alpensepp
Male, 70 & Over, Europe
 1337 Posts
Monday, September 24, 2012 9:34:06 PM
im not from germany, but i think the police there have to go through tons of investigations for every shot they fire and often have to face court if anything didnt go down according to the strict rules. also far less ppl have guns, so the need for self-protection may not be so imminent. but, yeah, us police seems very trigger happy.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Monday, September 24, 2012 9:20:43 PM
Evil Eye - weirdest post I've ever read. All of these problems are caused by Fox News. Don't make me defend Fox News, because I won't. However, that is a deranged and borderline-psycho claim. There isn't even any logical continuity to it.

Swing and a miss.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Monday, September 24, 2012 9:16:52 PM
Drugs being illegal doesn't mean there is a discernible war on them. We have an exceptional case, we declared war on drugs. Operation Too Fast Too Furious - this is the kind of thing we do in the drug war. We invade Panama. We get involved in Colombia. Our incarceration rates skyrocket as soon as we declared the war a few decades ago. Don't compare our drug policy to that of Germany, they couldn't be more different. I lived in Garmisch-Partenkirchen for a year, I'm not stranger to Germany.

kja1995
Male, 18-29, Western US
 124 Posts
Monday, September 24, 2012 6:53:46 PM
311,591,917 > 81,726,000

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