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Ted Koppel: Fox News 'Bad for America'

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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5021 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:57:49 PM
%Cats

"Obama had 2 full years of total control: he never ONCE even ASKED the Repubs about anything."

FACT CHECK: You need 60 Senators to pass legislation. Since Republicans rarely to never crossed party lines and filibustered everything, he in no way had "total control".

"Obama didn't even know what the current debt was in the USA when he showed up on Letterman. "

FACT CHECK: Letterman did not say "What is the national debt?" he said, in reference to the clock at the RNC last month, "Do you remember what that number WAS?" I absolutely promise you Obama knows what the current debt is every day. It is the one thing Republicans (who never b.itched when it was their guy running it up) keep bashing him over the head with.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17123 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:50:32 PM
Squrlz: You just won't admit my facts are correct because that might mean you'd have to change your politics :Gasp:

It still won't change the fact that you're wrong on climate change. Time and science is proving it to be a hoax. But that's another topic, for another time.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:44:39 PM
@Patticakes: "This leftist ruling class"? By any normal description of the political spectrum, America's Democrats are centrists or even soft-Conservatives. America doesn't HAVE a political left, something that is glaringly obvious if you've spent time abroad.

Were there any Labor Day parades in your town this year? Have you ever seen any May Day celebrations on your local news? Have you seen any Socialists or Communists on the ballot in the past 30 years? Are there any Green Party representatives in your state legislature? In high school, were you ever taught about the Homestead Strike, the Pullman Strike, or the Ludlow Massacre?

The fact that a sizable portion of America thinks that Barack "Status Quo" Obama is a Communist, of all things, shows just how saturated in Conservative propaganda this country is.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:41:13 PM
"Name ONE compromise he's agreed to, ONE! Something important of course, not giving that lady her medal or something."

The Public Option was removed from Health Care Reform. That is the one I remember personally.

Here are 4 pages of compromises.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:30:47 PM
Are you off your meds 5Cats?

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:25:14 PM
@5Cats: Thanks for the squirrel submissions. I liked the last one best because you could see some of the squirrel's personality. I liked the first one least because... well, the squirrel was dead. >.<

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25647 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:24:36 PM
For the record: Obama didn't even know what the current debt was in the USA when he showed up on Letterman.
It's 16,000,000,000,000.00 bozo! And counting UP.
Linky #1: My Post on this
Linky #2: Debt To The Penny

Obama didn't have the balls to admit it's 16 Trillion Dollars in public? And you want 4 more years of THAT?

Another 6+ trillion in debt (if re-elected) and he'll have more than DOUBLED IT in 8 years!

Worst-President-Ever! Oooo but I must be 'racist' for saying that, eh? Pbbbt!

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1573 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:15:44 PM
MoldyDog...People on the left don't listen to talk radio. Talk radio is for old people, white trash, and truckers. Those people tend to be republicans. Liberals are at work or school or having premarital and/or gay sex. They don't sit around listening to fat, hypocrite, drug-addict, philanderers like Rush pontificate on "family values".


The hell you say. They are forever being shoved to the front of the caller line just because they are from the left. Your response was as predictable as markust's. And the drug addict line is really getting old. Try and keep up with the times, your smack talk is weak.

patticakes
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 459 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 8:04:02 PM
Koppel will never get it. And you can't explain freedom and small government to a statist. Normal patriotic Americans are now the enemy of this leftist ruling class.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25647 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:52:56 PM
Rachael Maddow has impeccable journalistic practices

HAW HAW HAW HAW! Oh wait, you actually believe that @QZ?

@Squrlz: Sometimes over-caffinated, sometimes under-medicated! lolz! I just flat-out refuse to drink the kool-aid of the left, so I guess that makes me "radical" these days.
Did you look in the "live submissions" for all my Squirrel Suggestions? 4 of them iirc... there they are! Top of page 2...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25647 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:30:51 PM
@Squrlz: I am mystified at how that uber-left site blames Repubs for blocking nominations:
#1 it's the 'duty' of the opposition to only vote for the best, or is that ONLY when the Dems did it Reagan? Bork and Thomas ring a bell?
#2 Dems had a majority the whole time! They only needed ONE Repub to cross the floor and be filibuster-proof, BUT Obama (and Reid) refused to even TRY to compromise!

FACT: Obama couldn't even compromise with his own party and get their support! Talk about "worst"!

@HolyGod: So you measure how well a PotUS compromises by how often he SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT ON FURTHER DISCUSSION? (or his party, same difference). Remarkable!
And did ALL those bills fail? Why no! They passed! So Obama didn't even NEED to compromise, obviously! You see that, yes?
109th Repubs 34 times
110th DEMOCRATS 61 times
111th DEMOCRATS 63 times
112th Repubs 35 times

So the party that refuses to talk is the best at compromise?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25647 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:19:41 PM
The Republicans in congress had absolutely no intension of working with President Obama.

@markust (and @HG too) Obama had 2 full years of total control: he never ONCE even ASKED the Repubs about anything. Since then he did negotiate a budget with them, BUT at the last minute tried to "sweeten" an agreed-up deal!
The Repub House cannot pass anything important without either the Senate (Dem) or the PotUS (Dem) supporting them.
It's ALL ON OBAMA: it's his J-O-B!
Reagan compromised.
Bush I compromised.
Clinton compromised - best of the bunch at it!
Bush II compromised - too much I'd say.
Obama: Name ONE compromise he's agreed to, ONE! Something important of course, not giving that lady her medal or something.

Yes really. Truth in journalism should not be too much to ask for.

Whose "truth" @markust? Mine or yours? Who gets to decide which is what?

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:52:26 PM
CrakrJak: CJ, I'm pleased when you stick to facts. It's your sticking to *falsehoods* that's the problem. =^.^=

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17123 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:48:42 PM
Squrlz: Wonder no more, I'm not paid by anyone to express my opinion. I just know the facts and it irks you that I'm adamant about sticking to them.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:41:32 PM
(Cont'd)

4. AuburnJunky. In the few discussions I've had with AJ, I come away most impressed by his good nature. I suspect it'd be easy to be friends if we met in person. Conservative but open to discuss opposing views, which is awesome.

5. Randomxnp. Haven't engaged with Random enough to have a good read. His profile says Europe, but he argues a classic American right-wing position, which is puzzling.

I've missed a few, no doubt. Maybe I'll expand the list at a later date.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:35:13 PM
I generally like discussing topics with conservatives, as long as the discussion is conducted honestly. (By that I mean there are no hidden agendas and errors are acknowledged.) Here are my short notes on the players across the aisle.

1. Ollie. Funny as all get-out, very smart with physics. A true iconoclast in the best sense, if a bit crotchety. Wish he'd use foul language less (e.g., bullpoo, etc. etc.).

2. 5Cats. Really out there on the far right, but he seems genuine, if over-caffeinated. Often asserts things that are manifestly not true, but I don't think he does so out of malice or in an intent to deceive. Plus, he's down with catgirls, so he gets some points there.

3. CrakrJak. CJ is my biggest challenge on here when it comes to civil debate. I've tried to connect because I admire his faith. But he has a tendency to repeat falsehoods so persistently I find myself wondering if he isn't paid to shill for the far-right.

(Cont'd)

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12318 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:22:42 PM
Crakr is on the fringe of the far right.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:17:53 PM
Maybe the Fairness Doctrine is outdated but there should be some kind of new law that makes it harder for organizations that call themselves news to purposely lie people.

I would also like to see a new law that would bring back honesty to political ads.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 5:20:52 PM
(Cont'd on Fairness Doctrine)

What kind of standards would I like to see enacted? Well, for one thing, I'd make it against the law to describe public officials in a national newscast as Nazis or Communists--or even implying that they are such--unless there's clear evidence that they identify themselves as Nazis or Communists or are advocating Nazi or Communist policies. This, of course, goes for both sides. (Remember: I'm talking about national news broadcasts here, not personal speech. Say whatever you like as an individual as long as you aren't making terroristic threats.)

Slippery slope? Maybe. But honestly: We've got a nation full of people out there cowering in their boots because they think Barack "Status Quo" Obama is going to come flying out of the White House foaming at the mouth waving a red flag.

It's a bizarre and sad state of affairs.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:59:08 PM
@QueenZira et al: You may be right regarding the Fairness Doctrine. But I'm not yet convinced something isn't called for.

Here's what I'm thinking of: A bipartisan commission, libs and conservatives, would enforce standards for any media outlet with an audience of 500,000 or more that reports national news or national news commentary.

Gardening or sports show? Or a small local show? Have at it, hoss: say whatever you want. But if you've got a large national audience and you purport to be a news source? *Some* standards should apply.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:50:43 PM
One more thing, on the Fairness Doctrine.

You have to remember, our parents and grandparents grew up in a time when there was limited media available, there were 3 news stations tops and not too much radio left after the dawn of TV. Back then it made sense to set up standards like the FD so no one could dominate the news or air waves, but today the same schema would totally fall apart.

Now there are numerous sources of media available, often at the touch of a button and the policing of these sources would just not make sense. Anyone, anytime, can go look up anything anywhere and there are no sitilted boundaries anymore. It's kind of a relic, really.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:39:21 PM
Thanks Squirlz!

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:37:58 PM
@QueenZira: Well said. Kudos.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17123 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:35:55 PM
HG: I've seen Koppel on TV decades before Fox News even existed. He was left-wing then and still is.

The 'Fairness Doctrine' was a bunch of BS. Why? Because it were the liberals that dominated the industry that got to decide what was 'fair' and what wasn't.

One conservative news source vs. Five liberal ones still isn't fair, numbers wise, but it's better than nothing at all like before.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:29:05 PM
That's not to say that there's no MSNBC personalities that don't adhere to her strict professionalism, because there are. I catch Ed Schultz leaping off the deep end all the time.

Both of them are as different as night and day, Rachael informs me while Ed makes me cringe. Basically what I'm saying is there is no good reason to watch Ed.

And that's about the size of it (trust me, as a Daily Show viewer I'm trained to recognize Bulls#it in the fourth estate all the time).

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