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Record Minimum For Arctic Sea Ice, 2012 [Pic+]

Hits: 7901 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: Science | Added by: davymid
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26226 Posts
Friday, September 21, 2012 1:45:55 AM
Namely (exclusively even) American right-wing conservatives.

@davymid: You "deny" that there are fundamentalist BLACKS in America? Are you so sure that 100% of "creationists" are Republicans that you'd bet your life on it?
I'D BET that 5 minutes of interweb searching (which AL GORE INVENTED btw! He said so while running for PotUS so it must be true!) will find tons of NON Republicans who are also nutjobs. I mean Creationsits.
Bet me? Huh? Didn't think so.
So WHY do you reject Al Gore yet embrace AGW? The "hockey stick" is every bit as believable as the "magic bullet" (only 25% of Americans believe in that, fyi).
It's...a...LIE!

Which planet do you think is hotter, Venus or Mercury?

@Fools: You have NO IDEA how the guy who origionally said Venus was hotter than Mercury was ATTACKED by the "scientific concensus"! After all, 98% of scientist KNEW Venus is/was colder...

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 6198 Posts
Friday, September 21, 2012 1:38:56 AM
It has nothing to do with leaving the bathroom light on too long or not separating your plastic milk bottles from your cardboard cartons. All the planets in our solar system are going through the same warming effect.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10157 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:58:48 PM
Davy. I resemble that statement. I believe in evolution, AND I am a right-wing conservative.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10157 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:57:24 PM
Al Gore owns a company that sells Carbon Credits. Do you guys know what those are?

Seem legit.

Anyway, Cycles gonna cycle. I'm loving this warm weather!

PoopNoodle
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 398 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:12:40 PM
I guess it depends on who you believe on this. Here is a news report saying the exact opposite of this article.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12085 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:34:40 PM
vv Ah yes, OldOllie. I was wondering when he was going to chime in. Antarctic sea ice has indeed been increasing, while antarctic land-ice has been melting.

Whatever. Climate Change has become a political football, and it's sad to see. The scientific data is the scientific data, the observable reality.

It's not surprising that the very same people that deny that global warming being (at least in part) due to human effects are the very same people that deny there's such a thing as Evolution in biological science. Namely (exclusively even) American right-wing conservatives.

Whatever. By the time we collectively realise how big the problem is, it'll be too late.

p.s. F*ck Al Gore.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14779 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:50:42 PM
If liberals thought they could control the world by touting global cooling, this would be the big story.

Xprez
Male, 30-39, Western US
 676 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 7:01:42 PM
No one is saying climate change isn't happening. Everyone believes it is, just not for the same reasons Al Gore says it is. The Earth is cyclic in nature and has been through several ice ages/warming periods. We were not around to blame all of the others on. Fear generates revenue. Learn some history on the Earth's climate.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:54:40 PM
@FoolsPrussia: No problem at all, I was just wondering what the connection was (and was feeling a little too lazy to read back down the thread). Now I get it. Thanks!

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:50:10 PM
'How did this thread go from climate change to Occupy Wall Street? ~scratches head~'

Andrew155 thinks we should be more concerned about the "impending financial crisis". It's partly my fault, because I responded to that. But I think he should be concerned about the massive economic problems that come with climate change.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:31:59 PM
How did this thread go from climate change to Occupy Wall Street? ~scratches head~

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1266 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:26:14 PM
Andrew155

No libertarians would have anything to do with OWS. Those people have no thought for freedom. They have no thought for anything but making other people pay for their idiotic decisions, their laziness or their greed.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1266 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:24:35 PM
patchgrabber

What does this have to do with pollution? You wrote a lovely post. But it is completely irrelevant.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1266 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:23:45 PM
peakingo

"our polar caps are melting at a ridiculous rate"

That is simply a lie. Antarctic ice is at a record high level.

Arctic ice is melting right in line with trends and cycles that pre-date the industrial revolution, let alone significant human release of CO2.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1266 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:21:28 PM
Nothing there about the record maximum for Antarctic sea ice, then?

Ever noticed that every argument for CAGW is either a classic logical fallacy or just really bad science (except when it is actually scientific misconduct or fraud, which is worryingly often)?

Brometheus
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 359 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:14:36 PM
"It's not about what argument is right or wrong"


peakingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 687 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:39:37 PM
I think all you jackasses are missing the point. It's not about what argument is right or wrong, it's about the fact that our polar caps are melting at a ridiculous rate and soon may be gone and more important than Al Gore or the Occupy Movement is how different the world will be for all us.

greenbasterd
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2356 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:47:35 PM
oh so now its climate change??? what ever happened to global warming from the pesky humans???

this is what happens when people think there smart because they took pooty course in UNI..
then get thousands in tax payers dollars thrown at them to come up with bullpoo.. what happens if they dont make up bullpoo? they don't get that money next year... its a vicious cycle which is the #1 problem in government.. it should be torn down and rebuilt. FACT


<-------- not worried

Denogginizer
Male, 30-39, Western US
 821 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:46:54 AM
The Earth goes through warming and cooling cycles on it's own. The debate isn't if the climate is changing, it's if we're responsable for it.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:41:33 AM
'Occupy was a mishmash of leftists, Socialists, Anarchists, and Libertarians....so your definition is wrong anyways'

No, my definition is correct because I said "mainly leftist". I'm aware that there were a few libertarians.

I'm also aware of the shortcomings of the movement. They failed because their anarchistic wing doesn't understand that a movement needs leaders and a clear plan.

Anyway, we're getting way off topic here.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:38:35 AM
'Of course--that's how they make their living.'

Except for the 2% who work for oil companies and also make a living.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:07:03 AM
"Wasn't the entire point of the Occupy movement (mainly a leftist group) to highlight the corrupted financial system?"


Occupy was a mishmash of leftists, Socialists, Anarchists, and Libertarians....so your definition is wrong anyways. But they were mostly just lazy, entitled college dooshes. Oh that's a fact. I live in Manhattan, I saw these people. Disgrace to humanity. Rape central.

And if you talk to most of them, specifically the ones that are the Leftists you describe, they think Obama is making it better. They think there is enough of rich people's money to balance the budget. Many don't even think the debt is that big of a deal.

The leftist faction of occupy supports the very policies that are going to cause the financial crisis. They are, largely, the problem itself. Corrupt bankers will not be the main cause of the coming financial collapse, it will be debt, entitlement, and laziness behind it all.

TruTenrMan
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2565 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:06:33 AM
98% of climate scientists agree...

Of course--that's how they make their living.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:02:01 AM
@skullgrin: Also, read this one: Are the planets warming up?

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:59:35 AM
'every planet in the solar system is experience global warming right now. Are people responsible for that too? LMAO'

Again, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. I've heard people say that Mars is warming. That's never been corroborated.

See this: Martian Global Warming?

It seems you're suggesting that increased solar activity is raising the temperature of the planets. Solar activity has actually been decreasing for the last quarter century or so.

Which planet do you think is hotter, Venus or Mercury? By your theory, it would be Mercury, since it's closer than Venus. However, you'd be wrong. Venus is hotter than Mercury, and it just happens to have a high concentration of CO2 in its atmposphere.

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