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Now That My Campaign Is Over, By Mitt R. [Pic]

Hits: 10207 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
 5426 Posts
Friday, September 21, 2012 5:00:44 AM
I hate that guy and I don't even live in AMUUURICA

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:41:33 PM
@ InTheNameOf: I agree. I really don't want a guy who wears magic underwear having his finger on The Nuclear Button.

InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
 335 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:49:40 PM
The mormon (or is that moron?) religion is just silly. Well, I guess the same can be said of all religions but that one is even more absurd than most. I hope he does not really believe that stuff. It's scary to think that somebody so gullible and with such poor reasoning skills could be president.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:57:55 PM
@HolyGod: Ah, yes, I answered you literally.

The concept that the government can "spend it's way out" of a recession is nonsense to me (my personal opinion again). For every dollar redistributed, an estimated $5 is losr to the bureaucracy. Source

To me, then, it would seem that the most reasonable method of economic recovery would be for the government to simply cut spending (ahem, wars for example) massively and reduce taxation across the board.

My reasoning comes from both research and experience. I had a friend who took out over $100k on loans for a private college; he always said it was OK because he would be able to pay it back later (and then some). He was counting on later rather than looking at the now.

Today, he can barely afford his apartment; My opinion is that simply being frugal is the best option.

handimanner
Male, 60-69, Western US
 1849 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:43:17 PM
Sound of front door slamming....

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5021 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:37:49 PM
HumanAction

I don't know if maybe you took my analogy too literally. I'm saying the broken business drowning in debt was the U.S. economy and Obama took it over. I'm saying isn't it obvious he would need to go further in debt to turn it around?

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:21:40 PM
@HolyGod: You would most likely need to go into more debt for the business in order to TRY to "turn it around" - so yes.

However, if the government decided to refrain from becoming involved, eventually the companies lending credit will stop lending. If the business files for bankruptcy, then those lendors should recover as much of their costs as possible, but should then be responsible for "eating" the remaining costs; it was their decision to lend to a business that may not be able to pay them back.

In addition, if I take on a business that is "under", then it is my responsibility to accept that debt (because I have the resources and confidence that I can recover it). If I fail, then I absolutely should be liable.

Yes, people will lose their jobs in the short-term; it is inevitable. The long-term implication is that better managed companies will flourish though (over time).

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5021 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 12:02:41 PM
HumanAction

I absolutely agree with your statement. It is a legitimate concern.

Let's consider this rationale too:

Let's say you take over a business. It is ALREADY drowning in debt, there are loans out on cars that need fixed, a mortgage on a building that needs repaired, and credit cards that are maxed out.

Wouldn't you agree that I would have to go further in debt to fix all the issues and turn the business around before I could start paying down debt?

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:50:36 AM
"The last Mormon that came to my door just wouldn't leave, even after I calmly explained to him that I wasn't interested in speaking to him about religion."

I calmly explain in a non-confrontational manor that I am gay and I am concerned about some of the anti-gay actions taken by the church. They stick around for about a minute after.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5021 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:48:08 AM
elkingo

""Unemployment is down" LMAO! Seriously? You believe that?"

I said "since the peak of the recession in late 2009"

The peak unemployment was 10% in 2009. It has trended down ever since to an August number of 8.1%. Now we can discuss whether or not it has gone down fast enough, but how can you argue that it has gone down?

tinyurl.com/3gss8qd

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:10:27 AM


HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:01:56 AM
@HolyGod

Unemployment is down
Job creation is up
New home builds is up
The stock market is up
Median income is up
Home sales is up


There is a fundamental issue with these indicators - they don't take in account debt. Let's consider this rationale at a simplified micro scale:

Let's say I get a loan for a car, take out a mortgage, take out some loans for college, and rack up a credit card bill. Ignoring my debt, all indications are that I am performing very well economically; afterall, I have a car, a house, a college education, and material possessions.

At the macro level, the same situation is occurring (has occurred). We artificially boost these statistics by increasing our debt (consider, for example, hiring a public employee).

Without considering debt and inflation, all of these statistics are meaningless.

defendors87
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 614 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:22:48 AM
Nubblins, was there only one?

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:53:30 AM
@newbzoorz: If they're your typical mormon conversionists then it will.

Selous
Male, 30-39, Australia
 1205 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:40:42 AM
@nubbins: answer the door naked with a giant strapon dildo on, that should scare them away

newbzoorz
Male, 13-17, Eastern US
 214 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:13:29 AM
@patchgrabber I don't think you understand. Nubblins is female. That doesn't work for them, in fact, it gives them the opposite of what they want.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:28:40 AM
@nubblins: Answer the door naked. Worked for me.

papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 579 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:22:28 AM
Are you kidding? Mitt still has my vote. I'd take his "so-called" gaffes over Obama's any day of the week.

nubblins
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1753 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:21:49 AM
The last Mormon that came to my door just wouldn't leave, even after I calmly explained to him that I wasn't interested in speaking to him about religion. Ugh.

GhettoNinja
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 889 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:39:52 AM
If you are not on unemployment benefits, and you don't have a job, the polls don't count you.

They go by unemployment claims being opened, being used, and if it is closed...to them that means you have gotten a job.

Even though, a lot of times it means you just no longer are eligible for unemployment and are now among the thousands of long term unemployed that are not picked up by the governments archaic and idiotic systems.

BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2005 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:20:22 AM
Scoff not at Mitt's Magical Mormon Underwear!


elkingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3404 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:58:46 AM
"Unemployment is down"

LMAO!

Seriously? You believe that?

trippyhippy9
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 562 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 3:59:05 AM
A good deal of Romneys policies make him a religious nut.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5021 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:59:57 PM
Defendors87

"Obama is destroying the economy"

How is life in the bubble?

Unemployment is down
Job creation is up
New home builds is up
The stock market is up
Median income is up
Home sales is up

Outside of the deficit, almost EVERY single financial indicator has improved since the peak of the recession in late 2009.

Where do you guys get this stuff? PLEASE look up the facts yourself.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5021 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:54:27 PM
defenders87

""religious nut"? I mean besides having a religion"

That is all it takes. If you believe in invisible, omnipotent, magic entities and 5,000 year old fairy tales, you are nuts.

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