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47% Don't Pay Taxes: True Or False? [Pic+]

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madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Thursday, September 20, 2012 4:22:34 AM
5Cats, You're Canadian dumb. I don't know if there's a difference between that and American dumb it's just that Canadian dumb sounds funnier.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24115 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:29:35 PM
So let us "recap" the facts:
The Republicans are at fault fo not protecting an Embassy that didn't exist when they passed the bill, AND wasn't covered by it anyways.

The Obama administration is NOT to blame for being utterly CLUELESS about Al Queda.

Got it!

Obama has NO CONTROL over the situation! Glad you've finally admitted that @madest.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24115 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:25:01 PM
See in America 5Cats, congress controls the purse.

@madest: How ODD that you forget that every time you mention the BUSH BAILOUT eh? Which came froma *gasp!* Democrat Congress!
But no, your memory seems to "skip over" that...
And Obama? You blame the Repubs but *gasp!* it was a Democrat Congress for TWO WHOLE YEARS, but you (and others at IAB) still blame Repubs (and Bush!) for that too!
How odd...

the consulate in Benghazi, where Stevens and other Americans died, was considered a “temporary facility.” It was not on the administration’s request list for structural improvements for fiscal 2012 or 2013,

Just ignore the facts @madest, they make you look SO STUPID! LOLZ!

Oh yeah, WHO could have imagines that 9/11 would have anti-American events in an Al Queda stronghold? WHO?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16716 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:11:36 PM
madest: You didn't even read your link did you?

It says those were PROPOSED cuts not just to security but construction and maintenance. Btw, most of the proposed cuts were to construction.

"...the Appropriations Committee gave Obama all of the $689 million he requested for security upgrades under the embassy security, construction and maintenance portion of the State, Foreign Operations and Related Agencies bill."

Ooops, didn't read that part did ya?

Once again you put your foot firmly in your mouth.
Bon Appetit.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:07:36 AM
Oh look an article on the subject.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:01:42 AM
I didn't blame Bush. I'm blaming the republican congress. See in America 5Cats, congress controls the purse. Just a little bit of info about the country you pretend to be an expert on.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24115 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:45:43 AM
@5cats: I'm not exactly sure, but maybe their payroll tax is similar to our CPP and EI deductions?

Yeah, seems that way @patchy! So we Canadians pay Provincial Payroll tax ON TOP of that, eh?

GOP cuts to embassy security is to blame.

That's so obviously right @madest!

3+ YEARS later...
At an embassy that didn't exist under Bush...
In a city that was a Al Queda hotbed...

OBVIOSLY BUSH IS TO BLAME!!! OBAMA WAS HELPLESS TO STOP THEM!!! REPUBLICANS ARE THE REAL TERRORISTS!!!!ELEVNTY!!!!

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:16:03 AM
GOP cuts to embassy security is to blame. Look in the mirror CJ, your party is the problem.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16716 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 9:17:43 AM
AJ: According to the Libyan official the threat warning was specific to Benghazi, where the attack happened, and the date Sept. 11th. That's the 'then' and 'where' right there.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1509 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 8:02:57 AM
@HA: I have to ask - why is everyone so opposed to the old way of collecting taxes?


Well if you really want to get down to the old way of collecting taxes how about everybody who owes send a check to DC twice a month instead of the automatic deduction done now.? It wouldn't work because people would spend it but it would mostly cause even more outrage because it would be a twice monthly reminder of just how much Uncle Sam is taking instead of a once yearly reminder.

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 951 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:51:53 AM
You can stop reading once you get to:
"Technically speaking, it's true."

Not sure what's "technical" about truth, but there you have it -- it's true, end of story.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5683 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:49:05 AM
@HA: I have to ask - why is everyone so opposed to the old way of collecting taxes?

Well off the top of my head I'd say it's partly because what if a state can't pay up? Some can barely balance their own budgets. Also, the feds pay for things that the states don't, unless you're looking to split up things like the FDA, SEC etc. into 50 slices and have each state pay 1/50 of those bills. But most likely it's just because the government:

a) Doesn't want to lose any tax revenue
b) Doesn't want the hassle and cost of a complete revision to the tax code.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5683 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:45:23 AM
@5cats: I'm not exactly sure, but maybe their payroll tax is similar to our CPP and EI deductions? Both employer and employee pay those though, but it's the closest thing I can think of to compare to their payroll tax.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9875 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:12:28 AM
"All I see in those articles is that Libyan officials warned American officials of a dangerous security situation."

What do you think happened right before 9/11 happened?

"Oh. There might be an attack. We aren't sure when, or how big. Might wanna batten down the hatches."

They didn't.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4041 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:32:34 AM
Ollie, you're not using all of Romney's speech! I'm happy to use all of it. Listen, he said, "There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. ... These are people who pay no income tax. ... [M]y job is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives." So, now, sure, 47% pay no income tax. You're right. Are they the people he described, though? Are they dependent on government, not taking responsibility? Look at ALL of the facts.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12931 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:29:48 PM
All I see in those articles is that Libyan officials warned American officials of a dangerous security situation. They don't say anything about specific threats.

What I do know is Valerie Jarrett had armed security for her vacation to Martha's Vinyard, but the US Ambassador to Lybia, Chris Stevens, did not. That should tell you something about Obama's priorities.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12931 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:25:21 PM
What Romney said is absolutely true. The title of this post, though, is a goddamned stinking liberal lie. Romney specifically said INCOME taxes, while the title of the post (and the bull$#!+ liberal article) conveniently take the word "taxes" completely out of context, i.e., separating it from the immediately preceding adjective describing exactly WHAT taxes he's talking about, i.e., INCOME taxes, so they can LIE and say he's talking about something completely different, i.e. ALL taxes.

When conservatives post Obama's "You didnt' build that" speech, the liberals squeal like stuck pigs and say an entire paragraph was taken out of context. But liberals can chop a single sentence to shreds and take out words that completely change the clear and unambiguous meaning to make it say something completely different, and that's just fine.

Why do liberals have to lie like this? Because when they're honest about their policies, they lose.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3397 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:54:42 PM
All I see in those articles is that Libyan officials warned American officials of a dangerous security situation. They don't say anything about specific threats.

I'm not trying to defend the administration or anything. I think it's silly that they claim it wasn't a planned attack, when it clearly seems to be the opposite.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16716 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:39:35 PM
Also one of the libyan security guards wounded in the attack, says there was no protest before the attack. Antiwar.com

So the whole Obama narrative is now suspect.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16716 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:39:23 PM
Davy: CNN has the story.
As does The Daily Mail.


goaliejerry
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 4028 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:54:02 PM
He said income taxes. Yes, he's correct.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12013 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 8:47:49 PM
Libyan officials gave them warnings 3 days prior and this president, Obama, ignored them.

Crakrjak, can you please provide supporting evidence of this 3-day warning that was ignored? Primary evidence, mind. I'd be very interested in reading it.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3397 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:59:43 PM
The troops don't pay federal income taxes when deployed in combat. Bunch of freeloaders.

DFWBrysco
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 307 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:55:38 PM
It is this sort of disinformation that is being feed to the poor sheep known as the Republicans of this country who don't know better that just really burns my panties in this filthy election.

47% did not pay taxes in 2011? According to the partisan Tax Policy Center who did a report on this in July of 2011 (and the basis of Romney/Satan's remarks), half of the 47% had no tax due to standard deductions and tax credits, and the other half took advantage of tax credits and loopholes to effectively zero their taxes out.

Gee - this is the same tax strategy Romney/Satan uses so that he pays so little in tax - yet he has the balls to criticize everyone else.

Here is the report. Lots of simply graphs so Republicans understand too.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:44:30 PM
I have to ask - why is everyone so opposed to the old way of collecting taxes?

Essentially, the federal government tells each state what they owe (for military protection, post office, etc.). Then, it is up to the states to determine how they will collect the revenue.

In this way, the states will continue to find better methods for tax collection and we eliminate the need for individual federal filing.

If you agree with this notion, that's because it makes sense. Why we went away from it I'll never know.

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