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"Innocence of Muslims" Screenwriter Speaks

Hits: 6366 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: whodat6484
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12739 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 9:29:08 AM
@Angilion

Do you buy that? You know she never had children there's a reason for that I'll let you put it together......

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5597 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 8:37:00 AM
Muslims ALL have no problem with these ideas.

That's just asinine @5cats. It's like saying all Christians have no problem with women being stoned if they aren't virgins when they're married.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10537 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:22:27 PM
I'm not seeing how they're so pissed about sexualizing Islam didn't Mohammed screw a 9 year old??


That's unclear. He married her, but marriage involving rich and/or powerful people in early medieval times was often a social, financial and/or political arrangement completely unlike our modern ideas of marriage. Which means that it can't simply be assumed that there was anything sexual about it.

Someone who knows a little more might point out the word "consummated", but obviously that's not in the Koran because it's not written in Rnglish. "consumated" means "completed" and so it's quite possible that the Arabic word translated as "consummated" doesn't have any sexual connotations. It was common for a marriage to occur in three parts back then - engagement, marriage part 1 (betrothal) and marriage part 2 (completion of the marriage ceremony, which could happen years later).

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22067 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:55:18 AM
@EmagehtmaI: Good point! Many 'westerners' fail to understand that different cultures don't beilieve the same as us.
Beat women & children? Have 4 wives? NO free speach? NO free religion? Arrest Gays?
ALL are foundations of Islam: Muslims ALL have no problem with these ideas.

EmagehtmaI
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 186 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:47:37 AM
Remember, guys: it doesn't make sense to us that they blame the US over a film made by an independent filmmaker, but in their world, they do not recognize our concept of freedom of speech. Here, we can and do question different aspects of religion, because that is our constitutional right. In many Muslim countries, Islamic law is the law of the land, and the freedom to freely criticize Islam does not exist. So in their eyes, it's our fault for letting it happen. They're still wrong, I'm just trying to explain how they think. It didn't make sense to me, either until I thought it through.

Fleaman1797
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 719 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:45:52 AM
drat i couldnt hate Muslims OR Christians anymore then i already possibly do.. i think i hate Muslims more though. at least Christians dont firebomb when someone puts Jesus in a cartoon or calls him a fag.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:30:07 PM
...didn't Mohammed screw a 9 year old? Also aren't martyrs promised 72 virgins?

Right, and does anyone seriously believe these filthy barbarians are looking forward to spending eternity with 72 adult women? No, they're all looking forward to spending eternity raping children, just like their "prophet."

Oh, and just to be fair about Mohammed's child bride, as the story goes, he did wait till she turned 10 before he raped her.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:23:13 PM
what would happen if the Nazis tried to persecute all of the Muslims...?

You probably weren't taught this in school, but the Muslim Arabs were allies of the Nazis in WWII.

Evil_Eye
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1433 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:31:52 PM
So they attacked a US Embassy, claiming was because of a movie that had nothing to do with the US. It is just hateful people in a violent part of the world, who hate the US and are looking for an excuse too add to the violence.

This is an annoying catch 22... they attack a contry because they want them gone, country won't go because they keep attacking.

grantagency
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 5 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:59:13 PM
Interesting what happens when Muslim religion is insulted a bit...and see what happens around the world? Interestingly enough, what would happen if the Nazis tried to persecute all of the Muslims, just as they did with 6 millions Jews...Would Muslims really take out Hitler for it, considering what they're doing now in the world?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12739 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:37:47 PM
I'm not seeing how they're so pissed about sexualizing Islam didn't Mohammed screw a 9 year old?? Also aren't martyrs promised 72 virgins? Kinda makes the video seem mild dosen't it?

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10537 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 3:39:52 PM
Experts say film that has incited rioting is product of well-financed vocal minority fomenting anti-Muslim sentiment in US since 2001 terrorist attacks


That would mean that they are saying that the film was produced by Muslims, because it's a well-financed vocal minority of Muslims who are fomenting anti-Muslim sentiment in the USA and everywhere else, by being violent nutjobs with a lust for tyranny, torture and murder.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 8233 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:54:08 PM
turdburglar
My old Dad said the same,
"All they know is to fight and slap women"
I try to keep neutral but to be fair its getting harder as I get older

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 8233 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:51:59 PM
I know this may enrage a few, but hell, pretty much every religion going has had controversial films, books, etc. Pointing them out, seems everyone is a bit edgy about poking Muslims, because as usual they go ape cack,really is about time they just accepted the 21st century, and just let it lie

gladhatter
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 214 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:44:49 PM
Maggots!

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3349 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:21:24 PM
The White House asked Google/YouTube to "review" the video. That's basically their way of saying "remove the video NOW" and their reply was the video "does not violate its terms of service concerning hate speech."

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9576 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 1:10:43 PM
Well said by him. Freedom of speech trumps idiotic Quran thumpers.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3059 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 12:08:03 PM

My grandpa says we (America) should turn that whole part of the world into a glass parking lot. I just figured he was being a raciest prick (which he is), but as time goes on I find it harder to disagree.

BlankTom
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 6560 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:29:08 AM
@Nickel2 how do you *choose* to be an atheist?

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:02:02 AM
Mob mentality is a weird phenomenon. I saw it during the Seattle WTO riots. It doesn't take much to light the fuse of stupidity.

Same with the riots in England last year, things escalate when lots of people get together. Individuals feel anonymous and safe in a big group and also pressured to conform to the actions and behaviour of that group.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22067 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:36:14 AM
Nice! I'm glad he has some common sense.

Too bad he has to hide for fear of FATWA, eh?

Nickel2
Male, 50-59, Europe
 3950 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:14:11 AM
I'm glad I chose Atheism.
It means I am not bound by my beliefs to kill anyone who disagrees with me.
Peace and love to everyone!

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2470 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:46:23 AM
I can guarantee that barely anybody in these mobs even saw the movie. In the end though, it really doesn't even matter. The movie called Muhammed a womanizer, child molester, and a killer. Actually, these are all factual statements and in a free society he has the right to say them. Besides, they're not that unusual statements, certainly nothing Richard Dawkins hasn't said.


And the "a few are not all" mantra is really misguided. Nothing can apply to 100% of the population. However, the majority of all of these Muslim countries are significantly more authoritarian, radical, religious, conservative, and oppressive than other countries. Remember, Hitler didn't even need 50% to become Hitler. And the comparison is fair, the hatred these people have for Jews is comparable. The last time Egypt was invaded, the soldiers were issued copies of Mein Kampf.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:39:43 AM
This situation is a tough one. It's obvious that there is something else behind the violence but at the same time I hate censorship. But in this instance I say Google should have called the mobs bluff and cut the video off right away. And I call it a mob because look at what happened with peaceful Canada when a hockey team lost. Mob mentality is a weird phenomenon. I saw it during the Seattle WTO riots. It doesn't take much to light the fuse of stupidity.

Quackor
Male, 18-29, S. America
 2864 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 8:31:17 AM
maybe he should learn that a few are not all

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