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Libyan Politics: Reagan Vs Obama [Pic]

Hits: 11622 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: kitteh9lives
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madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6455 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:07:14 AM
So, how are those brilliant new tactics working out for Team Obama?
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I would say swimmingly in comparison to team Romney or Bush or team any GOP team since they have no credibility in foreign affairs...

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11716 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:10:43 PM
The original argument makes no sense. Taking politics out of this i.e. Obama vs Reagan, the point is complete BS. Circumstances make the biggest difference. E.g. within a single sports match, you try different tactics depending on the situation of your own team and the opposition.

So, how are those brilliant new tactics working out for Team Obama?

scra
Male, 18-29, Europe
 6 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:23:09 PM
You seem to have it wrong, an interesting poster.
Misuse and Misconception of Statistical Facts, and the timing of events, does not put blame on Obama, seems like the usual correlation and causation argument. Remember when ice-cream caused polio in kids haha. My educated friends, we must treat idiots with polite disagreement, mixed with a patient education of reality.

poonoodle
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 38 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:49:39 AM
Someone who says

"It really shouldn't surprise anyone though; most humans are simply chimps imitating the one they perceive to be the best among them. With this in mind it is clear to see that many of you have taken your behavior training directly from Obama."

and then says

"I find that you are incapable of making a point without declaring that your opponent isn't a mindless bot influenced by some other entity."

really should take notes or something.

MrRugby
Male, 30-39, Europe
 34 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:42:27 AM
The original argument makes no sense. Taking politics out of this i.e. Obama vs Reagan, the point is complete BS. Circumstances make the biggest difference. E.g. within a single sports match, you try different tactics depending on the situation of your own team and the opposition.

handimanner
Male, 50-59, Western US
 1691 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:31:07 AM
That doesn't excuse the usual Al-Queda bozos looking for ANY excuse to kill Americans. Islam does need to police their own or continue to reap reprisals for their actions as well.

handimanner
Male, 50-59, Western US
 1691 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:28:55 AM
Good grief. Obama sought to play down tension BEFORE the uprising. Heck, I apologize for that idiot movie as well. "Innocence.." is akin to yelling "fire" in a theater. Absolutely inflammatory and Becile -or whatever he's calling himself these days- is a frikken coward. Lets make him hold a red-carpet (as in blood, his) premiere in Kabul.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11716 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:20:19 AM
Do Anders Breivik and the Westboro Baptist Church represent all Christians?

If they had hundreds of millions of violent barbarian followers rioting in the streets committing murder and mayhem and waging a global jihad against civilization, I guess in that case you would be able to say they do.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11716 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:14:54 AM
It was Ghadafi that ordered the attacks back then and we retaliated. This time it was a rouge attack by a bunch of religious fanatics, supposedly. If so then there is a difference.

Right, but who helped those religious fanatics take over and kill Ghadafi?

andybme
Male, 50-59, Western US
 296 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:47:25 AM
It was Ghadafi that ordered the attacks back then and we retaliated. This time it was a rouge attack by a bunch of religious fanatics, supposedly. If so then there is a difference.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3157 Posts
Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:02:10 AM
'It's pointless to speak of Muslims in general. 23 % of all people in the world are Muslims. Some of them lead modern and developed states and have long trade history with the west.

It's absurd to let a bunch of punks represent 1,6 Billion people just because they are able to accomplish throwing a Molotov into a building while someone is filming.'

This. Do Anders Breivik and the Westboro Baptist Church represent all Christians?

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:38:00 PM
@HumanAction, sorry about this line, "He's not a partisan prick like the other phonies." I had to head out to a wedding after I wrote this. Half way down my hill it hit me that this was really going to look like I was attacking you personally. Didn't mean it that way at all. I'm glad to hear that you are a true libertarian. I'm not going to comment on your other odd rant. I think that was just a well deserved knock back at me - not in the content of what you said but in the misconception of what I did.

evam-9
Female, 18-29, Western US
 242 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:14:15 PM
Bomb them again.

Student_Law
Male, 30-39, Europe
 966 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:03:43 PM
It's pointless to speak of Muslims in general. 23 % of all people in the world are Muslims. Some of them lead modern and developed states and have long trade history with the west.

It's absurd to let a bunch of punks represent 1,6 Billion people just because they are able to accomplish throwing a Molotov into a building while someone is filming.

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 8218 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 3:12:13 PM
Just read done thats been done, our weak arse government let the fecker who did it go,and that is covered in supposed bungs

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 8218 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 3:09:30 PM
Do believe they were responsible for the downing of the Lockerbie aircraft too

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2305 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:56:00 AM
@markust: Furthermore, if you look back, you will find that I am socially liberal. I believe that it is not the role of government to dictate morality.

In addition, I believe in small government and federalist concepts. Legislation should be enacted at the lowest possible level and should affect all citizens equally.

Would you care to explain to me how I am not a libertarian and how I am merely a "conservative in disguise"? I believe that I am a near-perfect fit for the definition of libertarian.

Of course you won't admit this. As I've stated before, your only argument is that I am some "mindless sheep" merely echoing the marching orders of some master. Strangely, it seems to be you who is incapable of producing an intelligent argument though; instead, you merely repeat the same old "Fox News" and "Glenn Beck" lines you've become so accustomed to.

Don't be a donkey.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21849 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:55:40 AM
@almightybob: I don't recall @CrakrJak calling for Jihad, detonating bombs or storming embassies...

He's pointing out that "Muslims" use any excuse for violence: even the mere existance of Jews is enough!

Saying "hands off my saviour!" and killing Diplomats are NOT the same thing! Seriously dude!

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2305 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:49:48 AM
@markust: I was calling you out on your BS - trying to pretend it is only the Liberals and Dems that are dividing this country

It was my point to do this in order to illustrate the irony. I have very often seen self-declared liberals attempt to demonize conservatives for "dividing the country" yet here is another example of the exact opposite occuring.

I think if you look back at previous threads you will find that I am a willing participant of intelligent conversation. I maintain the position that I will argue on the "level" of my opponent.

Glenn Beck is a libertarian.

What does this have to do with me? I find that you are incapable of making a point without declaring that your opponent isn't a mindless bot influenced by some other entity. I have never had anything to do with Glenn Beck; the only person I listen to regularly is Jason Lewis.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:43:38 AM
CrakrJak: muslims are just too damn thin skinned over their so called 'prophet' and their fanatical book.


Funny - when other people talk about your 'prophet' and fanatical book like that, it's intolerant Christian-bashing.

almightybob1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 4278 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:39:27 AM
Libya wasn't quiet for 25 years. They did plenty of other stuff after 1986, like taking USMC Col. Higgins hostage and later killing him. In fact the bombings prompted plenty of retaliatory kidnappings and killings against Americans and Brits as a direct response.

So yeah.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:08:35 AM
"Originally the base definition of "moderate'" it is a shame that they don't exist anymore."

I agree with you 100%. I have a really good friend that is a true libertarian. He's not a partisan prick like the other phonies. Ever since Fox News stole the Tea Party from the libertarians their party has never been the same.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21849 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:00:39 AM
@ HolyGod, that is because nobody cares about Canada.

Actually @BotFly: the radical Imams watched some hockey games and said "Holy camel poop! we're not going NEAR those crazy Canadian mother-dratters!"
True story...

With this in mind it is clear to see that many of you have taken your behavior training directly from Obama.

@HumanAction: THAT is the comment of the YEAR!
Ka-ZINGA!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 21849 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:51:54 AM
Uh, no, then they blew up an airplane over Scotland and the US was quiet for 20 years until Obama nailed Gaddhafi.

@mcboose? Um, not hardly: Kadaffi ended his nuclear program, turned over the spys involved in Locherbie, opened his army to UN inspectors and destroyed his chemical weapons under their observation...
In other words he went from terrorist backing thug to actual world citizen.
Hardly "silent" he led Libya into the 20th century! A little late perhaps, since it was already the 21st century, but better than nothing!

Obama is more responsible for Qaddafi's death than Reagan is.

Is that a typo @FP? Did you mean "no more"? If so: lolz!

DFWBrysco
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 285 Posts
Saturday, September 15, 2012 10:49:16 AM
Markust, tt is a shame that the libertarian party has been hijacked by the religious right in their zeal to try to be considered "moderate." The original seeds of the party was to be a moderate mediator between the Repubs and Demmies - the idea that peoples morals and ethics could guide them sensibly without a large government enforcing it.

I guess in kind of a way, they were the "wishy-washy" group - liberal in social issues, but wanting a small government, while at the same time providing regulation on certain industries, while reducing controls on all others, etc. They believed that illegal aliens should not be given amnesty and should be deported, but for registered illegals, a path of citizenship and support should be provided to them.

Originally the base definition of "moderate'" it is a shame that they don't exist anymore.

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