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Obamanomics 101

Hits: 6993 | Rating: (2.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:03:25 AM
Canada is ranked #5 in world economic freedom. Got that way through socialism eh seal clubbers?

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12083 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:12:35 PM
Not true at all, In fact I have been homeless before and it was a private organization, The Salvation Army, that helped me get back on my feet.

OK, but I have to ask a question. Not a loaded qestion by any means, but an honest one. I promise I won't hold it against you.

The question is this: were you a fervent Christian before the Salvation Army rescued you from your plight? Again I ask, and you're under no obligation to answer, but did the help from the Salvation Army make you a more devout Christian? Put simply, were you THIS religious when you were facing homelessness?

Please answer honestly.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26174 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:50:56 PM
@davymid: Canada IS the best nation on Earth! But that doesn't mean: A) it will stay that way all by itself B) there aren't ways to improve it and C) if our US friends go belly-up, we will too!

Funny thing about freedom @davymid: I'm free to express myself even if y'all liberals would rather I was arrested for saying it.
Am I exaggerating? Just look at the journalists, professors and other US liberals calling for arrests, deaths even, in the "Innocence" film.

keatonatron
Male, 18-29, Asia
 680 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 7:29:16 AM
Agreed. You lost me at "Obama said you didn't build your business".

VirtualParty
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 794 Posts
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:55:55 AM
When you start out a video with a misquote I won't watch the rest of your video.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17293 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 9:11:41 PM
Davy: "..poeple like 5Cats and Crakrjak, with their health issues, would be completely shafted under a Conservative government. They'd be on the streets."


Not true at all, In fact I have been homeless before and it was a private organization, The Salvation Army, that helped me get back on my feet. Despite all the BS rhetoric, Conservatives do not want to dismantle social security, they want to save it so that it will be there for the future.

Obama has us aimed at the cliff, stomping on the gas, like Thelma and Louise. What will happen to people like me when the government goes bankrupt and can't pay it's bills? We'll be left out in the cold and homeless, because the democrats can't keep their damn hands out of the government till.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12083 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 8:40:10 PM
Oh, for f*ck sake 5Cats. This crap again? And yes, I knew it was one of your posts, as soon as I saw the name Andrew Klavan, that right-wing, partisan, journalist hack. Still batting at 100%

5Cats, it must rile you every day to be living in Canada, with all the blantant socialism, free health care etc. Just move to the US already and join the Romney Campaign. You wanna be cheerleader for US Conservatives? You go, sister!

I'll stay put here in Canada, if you don't mind. There's a reason that out of all the countries I could have moved to, to live my life, I chose Canada instead of the US.

ledzeppeloyd
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2304 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 7:23:43 PM
yea and romney is going to make everything all better right?

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 6:51:20 PM
@themax275: Actually, both NAFTA and WTO are pro-trade but are not at all pro "free market". A free market system would have zero barriers to trade and would not have legislation regarding trade.

By instituting a trade agreement with specific entities, those countries that partake automatically become favored while those that do not participate are unfavored.

It is a nuance, for sure, but this act and organization is not based on free market principles. Both introduce legislation, which by definition is the opposite of free market.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 6:38:22 PM
5Cats, Hate to break it to you, this video is void of "wit".

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5056 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 4:28:52 PM
5Cats

"What about the other 4 points I made to answer your questions?"

#1. My point was that the quote shown had nothing to do with what it was purported to. Your response had nothing to do with my point, so I ignored it.

#2 You agreed with me that it was biased, so why would I continue?

#3 I counter argued your rebuttal and you ignored it.

#4 and #5 I responded to.

So what exactly do you mean?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26174 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 3:44:00 PM
We weren't in a recession during Bush's entire term.

@HG: Excuses! Excuses! Bush had terrorist attacks and wars to (legally!) fight. EVERY PotUS has problems, how has Obama coped? BLAME BUSH! How has he overcome? PLAYED GOLF!
Promised the Sun but delivered the shade. And y'all want 4 more years of that?

What about the other 4 points I made to answer your questions? I guess I got those correct eh?

themax275
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 16 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 3:38:51 PM
That was supposed to say: China's inclusion and continued abuse of, the WTO

themax275
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 16 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 3:29:36 PM
As usual, any good points made in the video are jazzed up and mixed in with so much propaganda that it becomes unwatchable. Overplay your point and underplay any evidence to the contrary. It's no wonder the voters of this nation are so confused.

Free market capitalism is not the reason we don't have slave labor. As a zealous right winger he's required to never say a good thing about the formation of unions and their role in middle class growth and better working conditions.

He's also obligated to tell you that unions are what drive business to seek cheaper labor elsewhere, nevermind the fact that we've had NAFTA and WTO (both freemarket ideas) that basically handed our manufacturing base overseas.

People need to stop thinking they are 100% right all the time and realize our problems aren't rooted in the other side of the aisle.




patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:40:24 PM
@insane_ai: Well if axiomatic statements are considered "elementary school education" then I weep for the state of education in your country, as that seems to be as far as you have progressed in that system. Also, it's not my job to do your homework for you. If you have a source you provide it, since you are making the claim.

And I also forgot how products are the only thing our countries trade, and those are also the extent to which our relationships go as countries. I mean, it's not like there are military agreements, natural resource trade or anything like that. Your simplistic understanding of international relations would be funny if it weren't so sad.

Jury1of1
Male, 30-39, Western US
 133 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:35:55 PM
What's even worse than these dumb videos (for or against Obama's administration) are the brain dead idiotic arguments from the peanut gallery. Just stfu and move on. Nobody cares what you think or is curious about your personal opinions on whatever dumb video was just shown.

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 1177 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:23:15 PM
Yes, there are philanthropists among the very rich, Bill&Melinda Gates foundation is a good example. Let's exaggerate and say 5% of them donate money just because they are kind. That will not cut it, corporations are inherently selfish and so far, not to be trusted. There's a lot evidence of self governing failing big time and very little actually decreasing profits for common good like no.

About the rest of the world commenting on your internal issues: It affects us, big time. USA takes a hit, the whole world economy crashes. So stop thinking it's only you living in this world. This thing gets thrown in our faces all the time, whether we want it or not (=not). Just check how much of this sites visitors come outside US and think again, i don't actively look for news about this.

You are very welcomed to discuss Finlands national politics by all means. It would be quite beneficial for you guys to study more equal system, you know, a better system by all standards. N

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:13:08 PM
My accuracy? Please. You get your accuracy from a Canadian cat lover and an invisible man in the sky. You must first become a viable source of good information before criticizing others "accuracy".

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3122 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 12:03:42 PM
i think its said best here

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17293 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 11:55:56 AM
madest: We never doubt your accuracy madest, because we all know you don't have any.

insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 686 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 11:06:05 AM
1. unsourced ridiculaous drivel? Not. Try elementary school education. Common knowledge. If you need verification, look it up.

2. You state you can't tell your country to stop trading with the US. Sorry about your luck genius. The next time I see a label that says made in Canada, I have the choice to pick it up off the shelf or leave it there.

You opinion still isn't worth a hill of beans in the US.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10317 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 10:55:17 AM
they didn't need the crown's money to sail over here, or their military to defend against the French and Indians (a war which the colonies started btw).


All of which are mutually exclusive of each other, so that's moot. On top of which, there have been European fisherman up and down the East coast of America long before Columbus.

Have you ever heard of sweatshops before?


Yes, and they're usually established and tolerated in places where the rule of law is lacking/tenuous or to have a successful business one has to be part of a privileged class a la China. That's what we libertarians are all about, for liberty, rule of law, and against privilege.

Arcval
Male, 18-29, Europe
 304 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 10:47:15 AM
The real problem is taking economic policy advice from a person (such as Klavan here) who doesn't actually know anything about economics, just like everyone in this thread...

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 10:23:49 AM
@HA: That's fine. To each their own then, I suppose. I find nothing wrong with your values as such, you believe them to be of quintessential importance, and the one thing I've never thought of you as being, is someone who doesn't want what's best for your country. There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting something different.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Monday, September 17, 2012 10:22:20 AM
5Cats is correct,
could be the least accurate thing you've ever written.

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