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Republican National Convention Sham 2012

Hits: 7439 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: chalket
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madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Monday, September 10, 2012 10:11:47 AM
Oh Bilderberg? The other Acorn? You can do better.

Neagle
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1405 Posts
Sunday, September 09, 2012 5:49:37 PM
Republican or Democrat figurehead? Your choice. 43% of eligible voters chose to exercise there rights in the last presidential election. That's a whole lot of disenfranchised citizens.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:28:01 AM
Ron Paul got F-ed by his own party. From fixed caucus wins across the nation, miscounted votes and down right fraud he's been treated like an albino stepchild. To say that both party's are the same is disingenuous. I can't remember the democrats ever F-ing a candidate by vote fixing and lying. Perhaps one of you right wing loons could inform me but you need to first be honest with yourselves. Your party is a mess, their virtues are now lying, cheating and greed. How can anyone in their right mind support support such nonsense?

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1951 Posts
Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:01:50 AM
the Nazi/republican party does not care about fair,they're about money.Period.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14351 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:03:02 PM
I've been saying for years that the 2 party system is a complete cluster f++k.

I agree, but though it wasn't planned that way, it's a reasonably stable solution to the system set up under the constitution. However, that's not the real problem. Parliamentary systems with proportional representation and government by coalitions actually produce even worse results in terms of freedom and prosperity. The problem is that we have abandoned the concept of limited government and the rule of law in favor of mob rule, aka, democracy. There is no constitutional authority for the Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Education, Energy, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Labor, or Transportation, nor is there any authority for Social Security, Medicare, or food stamps. Finally, there is absolutely no constitutional authority for drug prohibition. But voters disagree, so here we are, and the constitution be damned.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25650 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:35:46 PM
And OldOllie comes in to reinforce MeGrendel's ignorance. Where is Crakrjak to complete the trifecta?

My feelings = hurted!
lolz! Or not.

CynicalGamer
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 450 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 3:26:14 PM
This is just downright drating scary.
I've been saying for years that the 2 party system is a complete cluster f++k. We are being steered towards believing there are only 2 choices and now not even those 2 choices are legitimate.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14351 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:27:17 AM
@Prussia'sFool Once again the point goes flying over your pointed little head. In both cases, the party bosses stepped in to act against the will of a misguided majority in the best interests of their respective parties. In the case of the Republicans, it will be of no consequence. In the case of the Democrats, it will definitely have consequences. It's simple: God > Ron Paul.

@lauriloo, the fact that some of the boos came from Jew-hating Muslims rather than from God-hating atheists will not mitigate the political damage from this idiocy.


FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 9:30:09 AM
And OldOllie comes in to reinforce MeGrendel's ignorance. Where is Crakrjak to complete the trifecta? If you repeat a lie enough times it becomes true.

simbha
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 412 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:49:36 AM
I just want to be clear about something... This has nothing to do with Democracy. This is a non-governmental organization that is acting to nominate a candidate for election to government; it is not an election for government itself. Having said that, yeah - I agree - this was a sham.

And, to those referring to the DNC vote on 'God', two comments...

1. Our government is a secular government. A vast majority of our population may hold religious beliefs, but that has nothing to do with government.

2. As has been stated, the vote to which is being referred at the DNC was not only a vote for the inclusion of language relating to God - but also included the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

bliznik
Male, 30-39, Western US
 491 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 4:12:48 AM
The anti-Paul arguments here are pretty weak. So far the arguments seem to go as follows:
- Paul would have lost anyways, so it's OK to disenfranchise the delegates
- The Democrats voted on something that sounds anti-God, so it's OK to disenfranchise the delegates
- I don't like Ron Paul, so it's OK to disenfranchise the delegates

Unfortunately, that kind of thinking embodies the Republican party nowadays, and also garners votes. =/ ...which apparently is why it's OK so it's OK to disenfranchise the delegates...and minorities...and the poor...etc.

New_Guy
Male, 30-39, Europe
 401 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 1:20:16 AM
omg

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 12:10:16 AM
Well you answered my question @MeGrendel. You are not man enough to admit when you are wrong.

lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 1805 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 10:06:27 PM
"On the other hand, the MAJORITY of Democrat delegates booed God. "

I believe they were voting for BOTH changes, the Jerusalem one and adding the word "God" back in. Probably why the Arab guy (based on the sign the woman next to him was holding) they had the camera on saying NO makes sense. For some reason, people think saying "Faith" multiple times in the process of talking about supporting religion doesn't mean God by default.I would think if you were truly religious you would get that it means the same thing. Or maybe some people are just always looking for minutia to make a big deal about.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14351 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 9:47:17 PM
Sometimes the adults just have to step in and do what's right. The Paul delegates, who were a tiny minority at the RNC, wanted to throw a tantrum that wouldn't have made any difference in the outcome, and the head of the Republican party stepped in and put a stop to it. It won't amount to a hill of beans, because the vast majority of voters couldn't care less about Ron Paul.

On the other hand, the MAJORITY of Democrat delegates booed God. Villaraigosa had to be the adult and do the right thing even in the face of an obvious majority of utter fools. Now, even if you're an atheist, cutting your own throat like that was just plain stupid. It's going to be played over and over again for the next two months. Unlike the Paul dust-up, though, this WILL amount to something, because the vast majority of voters DO care about God.

Runemang
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2608 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:53:33 PM
FFS, thanks for posting this. I didn't think of myself as naive, yet I'm a little surprised how much this terrified me. This is just disgusting.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:10:53 PM
' I probably should have said 'Amendment one OF WHAT they were voting on.' that would have been more inclusive. I never thought anyone would think that there were separate votes.'

Or you could have not said 'And this is different from the Democratic Voice vote on returning God to the platform how?'

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:08:00 PM
"Give up Paulbots, the Republican party just isn't that into you."

No, its that real Republicans are just not into Mitt and the bull poo being pulled by the RNC. Actions like these will lead to a divide within the Republican party. Its the far right wing nuts for Mitt, and the moderate right wing people for Ron Paul.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4628 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 6:10:56 PM
markust123-"How can you flat out lie about your lie when people can go down to your last comment and see what you said?"

Okay, I see that reading comprehension is not your strong point, I'll break it down, (and I'll admit, I didn't phrase it as clearly as I should have).

"The part about Jerusalem was Amendment two. Amendment ONE that they were voting on was add to the platform the following line" I probably should have said 'Amendment one OF WHAT they were voting on.' that would have been more inclusive. I never thought anyone would think that there were separate votes.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17124 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 5:57:50 PM
ledzeppeloyd: There are no constitutional rules about how any party can conduct it's convention.

The Obamacrats did even worse to Hillary's delegates during the 2008 DNC. They flat out stole the Texas primary election from her.

DingDingDong
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1504 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 4:40:59 PM
This is why I'm not a Republican anymore.
I definitely fit better in the Libertarian party.
Issues that I feel strongly about:
-Spend less, balance the budget.
-End the drug war.
-Stop all foreign wars.
-No class warfare rhetoric.
-Government should not be regulating moral issues like drugs, prostitution, gay marriage, gambling, and big gulps. Those are all personal responsibility issues.
-And abortion of viable babies should not be legal unless the mother's life is in danger. There's no argument to counter this one. At the viability point it's easier to just induce labor and give up the child for adoption than abort it.
-Although, I've read through Obamacare, and I think it's a good thing. Either we don't treat people at the hospital that don't have health insurance (or can't pay for it), or force them all to have health insurance. And the latter is much more humane.

This video made me sad. Ron Paul would have been so good for the country

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 4:19:31 PM
What they did was make it harder to pull these delegate poaching shenanigans in the future. That's it. That's the full scope of their disciplinary action. The gatekeepers did their jobs.

Give up Paulbots, the Republican party just isn't that into you.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 4:09:44 PM
"I never said they didn't." Referring to 'They voted on both issues simultaneously'

Here is what you said @MeGrendel, "The part about Jerusalem was Amendment two. Amendment ONE that they were voting on was add to the platform the following line:..." You said amendment ONE that they were voting on. Explicitly capitalizing "ONE". How can you flat out lie about your lie when people can go down to your last comment and see what you said?

ledzeppeloyd
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2304 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 3:59:58 PM
@crakrjak
its not about how ron paul didnt get the vote, its about how they can just "shoo away" deligates if they dont like their choices, its fundementally corrupting the democratic process

VirtualParty
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 794 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 3:39:37 PM
Crackr Jak were we even watching the same video? You do realize why this is bad don't you? Not just for Ron Paul but for the future of America if people are going to get away with poo like this? You make me shake my head.

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