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DNC Delegates: Let's Ban Corporate Profits!

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sssfdg
Male, 18-29, Canada
 190 Posts
Monday, September 10, 2012 8:27:35 AM
Umm yeah the point of these ambush interviews is to allow them to say something stuipid. Not tell them what to say to begin with.

Not even a nice try......... FAIL.

mcboozerilla
Male, 30-39, Europe
 649 Posts
Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:18:59 AM
He selected the interviews, of course. How many said no?

Qystein
Male, 18-29, Europe
 159 Posts
Sunday, September 09, 2012 8:55:56 AM
america, are you really this stupid? If you think this is socialism, then North Korea do have a democracy!

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2655 Posts
Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:52:12 AM
In regards to robots: you may lose the manufacturing jobs, however you gain new jobs to repair the robots, a skilled job that requires intense training, thus should in theory being highly paid

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13966 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 10:21:32 PM
Most honest thing I've heard (davymid) say in years.

C'mon, Cracker, Davy may be a flaming leftie, but he usually fights fair and gives as good as he gets. His intellectual honesty is definitely a cut above a lot of the other libs on this site even if he is wrong about f***ing EVERYTHING!

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1664 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 4:08:51 PM
@markus

Ding ding, well put and written.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10243 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 10:00:26 AM
@HA

It's cool.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 9:47:00 AM
@Cajun247: Whoops - I was actually trying to agree and add to what you said but it sounds more like I was critiquing...

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10243 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 9:29:52 AM
@HumanAction

I know that, but where *I* was going with 17th amendment was the issue of economic power translating into political power, an issue liberals are rightfully concerned about. Before then mechanisms were already in place to mitigate that risk and 17th amendment completely eliminated them.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 9:14:53 AM
@patchgrabber: Well they couldn't possibly do a worse job.

Hehe - touche.

@Cajun:
This is exactly why the 17th amendment has been a detriment to the country since its adoption.

The 17th amendment was a complete travesty as it has drawn us much closer to a Democracy than was originally intended. The Founders understood that the average layperson is fallible and easily tempted, so they abstained from allowing such "mob rule".

Add to it the 16th Amendment and the Civil War, and it is easy to see how we have strayed so far from a decent government and society.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6458 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:53:52 AM
All these ads and banners kinda proves Demand Media loves profits more than they love a good site huh Fancy?

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10243 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:46:31 AM
Also I'd like say by far the worst case of "electioneering" has been attaching presidential candidates' names to the ballots. This has created an unwarranted expectation that one's vote is going to go directly (within the confines of electoral college) to that candidate, when in fact it is supposed to go to an anonymous and unpredictable elector.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10243 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:41:05 AM
To call a corporation a person and allow them to use their millions if not billions to influence politicians is not usually good for anyone except that corporation.


This is exactly why the 17th amendment has been a detriment to the country since its adoption. For starters criminalizing lobbying is against the 1st Amendment to the Constitution, as it is a guarantee that everyone has the right "to petition congress for a redress of grievances". Before they had to lobby legislators of the states to grant all sorts of perks to the senators who represented that state in the Federal Govt. Now they can just bankroll the federal senator's reelection campaign. The latter is far cheaper.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5708 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:36:11 AM
The republicans tried to tie campaign finance reform in with limitations on union contributions and that got stomped on.

And were they looking to limit corporate contributions as well I wonder? If so I'd be very surprised.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16961 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:28:07 AM
patchgrabber: The republicans tried to tie campaign finance reform in with limitations on union contributions and that got stomped on.

As it stands, with corporations allowed to give, campaign finances are pretty much equal, in presidential politics.

themax275
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 16 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:18:30 AM
@intrigid,

I see now, and it makes me weep for the world.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16961 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 8:15:31 AM
Davy: Come come now, if people like Crakrjak, OldOllie, 5Cats, McGovern etc are still sticking around when they've been hammered so many times by posts on this site, with pretty much all the Admins being Liberals, why are your panties ripping at the first sign of a few posts that go the other way? Grow a pair, man, come on.


Most honest thing I've heard you say in years.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5708 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:56:48 AM
Robots cannot manage HR departments

Well they couldn't possibly do a worse job.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:50:54 AM
@intrigid, "What's misleading about this?"

That question was answered best by @themax275. You can get a good number of people on both sides to say whatever you want if you are a dishonest reporter. Personally I think a fear of public speaking shutting down the logical side of thinking has something to do with it.

@themax275, "These are called leading questions. Getting a person to admit they are in favor of higher wages and lower priced goods, and then goading them in to say they are in favor of banning corporate profits as if it were a logical way of achieving that goal. Essentially he's putting words in to their mouths. The lesson everybody should take from this video is not that democrats are stupid, it's how terrifyingly easy it is to get a person to say whatever you want them to."

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:42:05 AM
@JoexBro: I understand your argument, and it seems reasonable at first; however, you're missing some pieces of the puzzle.

First off, CEO's do not want to eliminate the middle class. Remember, the middle class both provides their workforce as well as their consumer market.

Now, I know you are concerned about robots replacing humans but it just won't happen. Robots cannot manage HR departments, inventory ordering, etc. Humans will always be needed. Robots are actually very GOOD for the economy.

Next, you are concerned that we will sell the products overseas only. This is a bad business model for two reasons: first, you disassociate from your local market thus limiting your profits; second, what is there to prevent foreign competition? It is expensive to move product across borders and seas - especially with U.S. taxes.

intrigid
Male, 18-29, Canada
 916 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:35:30 AM
"Corporate america is trying to kill the internet for the rest of the world. (Kim Dotcom mansion raid, ACTA, SOPA, PIPA) by greasing the pockets of politicians. These corporation can have massive influence on local and foreign legislation. So are you governed by government or the corporations making donations?"

This is exactly why many advocate small and limited government powers. The problem is not corporations with unfettered profit motives, it's corporations with unfettered access to government legislative power.

intrigid
Male, 18-29, Canada
 916 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:31:40 AM
"intrigid,

Where are you getting that info? Are you just assuming they're all delegates?
"

On his daily radio show, he went on to explain that contrary to some of the accusations, only a few people in the video were non-delegates.

JoexBro
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 381 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:31:39 AM
@humanaction
It is very clear to me that there are some super elite who are some of the ceo's of these corporations, and they want to eliminate the middle class. How you say can this be if the middle class is buying and making their products. Well in a 100 years or so it might just be robots making all of those products, with the super elite living in america while other countries are now buying the products. There will be no more working or middle class. just the highest echelon in all mansions all over the country. That is what they are attempting to do. Maybe it will take longer, but that I know is their eventual goal.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5708 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29:18 AM
@HA: Touche. However, no one likes them anyway.

intrigid
Male, 18-29, Canada
 916 Posts
Friday, September 07, 2012 7:29:11 AM
"I think what is more telling is the number of conservative "reporters" who went trolling around the DNC trying so hard to film these "gotcha" moments. This is the third or fourth one I've seen here on IAB alone. It almost seems like a coordinated strategy, doesn't it? If this type of misleading, lying "journalism" was done at the RNC I never heard a word of it, especially not here on IAB. "

What's misleading about this? A significant enough portion of Democratic delegates support a ban or cap on corporate profits to fill a 5 minute video. I don't see how you can twist this any other way.

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