 Baelzar
Male, 40-49, Western US
 1348 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:34:32 AM
And by "WORKING," op means "NOT WORKING."
Learn some science. |
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 mesovortex
Male, 30-39, Southern US
180 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:31:39 AM
It's not perpetual motion because the magnets are producing force, and the magnets will probably wear out over time meaning it is actually losing energy over time.
This is just taking energy from an EMF field and turning it into motion. |
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 angrynerd
Male, 30-39, Western US
33 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:22:30 AM
It is somewhat real. These machines are built using extremely low friction bearings or other points of rotation. The wheel would spin for a very long time by itself without an external magnet. Eventually these machines do stop, and no work can be extracted from them if they are to keep running |
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 chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
1506 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:05:47 AM
@patchouly
I thought that too, but as we continue to develop stronger and stronger magnets mightn't this be "proof of concept" at least?
@Cajun247
Bearings can be replaced. "Perpetual motion" doesn't imply that the machine must LAST forever... just that it can run itself continuously without energy input, which this appears to be doing.
@Langer
Batteries? Where do you see batteries? Those are permanent rare-earth magnets.
@Kain1
You sound like a zealot, "I don't know WHY this can't work, but my philosophy says it is impossible so it must be fake!" Why not put a little thought into a problem before posting your assertions, eh? |
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 freddyferret
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
9843 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:58:08 AM
It could "work" as a conversation piece on someone's desk. It couldn't work to power a car or train or anything productive. |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2874 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:44:17 AM
In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics! |
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 Angelmassb
Male, 18-29, S. America
15474 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:32:18 AM
Quick! make your own before they "silence" him! |
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 Kain1
Male, 18-29, Europe
1283 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:29:00 AM
This is a scam, pure and simple. Perpetual motion machines are impossible. I'm not exactly sure how they rigged it, but trust me, they did rig it with some sort of energy source, an electric motor or something like that.
Perpetual motion contradicts both the law of energy conservation and the second law of thermodynamics.. |
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 dm2754
Male, 30-39, Western US
2771 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:27:35 AM
cute school project |
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 Mikeoxsbiggg
Male, 30-39, Canada
724 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:20:37 AM
Those were magnets. |
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 GRadde
Male, 18-29, Europe
2567 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:14:20 AM
I'm really bad at catching this kind of stuff out, but I'm having a difficult time debunking this. Stick a SIMPLE generator to it and see what it does; but make it a simple one, like a magnet spinning coupled directly to a single bulb or something, something that can be shown to not be a power source in itself. 'Til then, I'll just watch from the sidelines. |
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 MrTwidget
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
746 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:11:03 AM
@Cajun247
With this logic my car is perpetual, until it runs out of gas. |
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MrTwidget
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
746 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:07:00 AM
@5cats
Rare earth magnets, such as neodymium, are estimated to hold a magnetic field for 400 years. Heat would be the only issue I can see. |
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BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
1318 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:44:56 AM
Damned clever. Not sure it will ever actually generate any power, but damned clever all the same. |
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 Langer
Male, 18-29, Europe
308 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:15:16 AM
not to mention the electrical charge needed for all those batteries, and subsequent batteries that will replace those first ones |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16991 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:14:06 AM
Since it's based on magnets, it will eventually "lose magnetism" and stop. You'd need massively powerful magnets to get any "work" out of it, and it's not perpetual. |
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 Naitsirhc88
Male, 18-29, Western US
262 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:07:51 AM
This is genius! |
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 AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
488 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:07:23 AM
Not sure exactly why, but I'm sure this won't work. The reason may be found here. There are lots of interesting attempts listed on that site, including some magnetic wheels, but I don't see this particular one offhand. Perhaps this one is new and should be submitted to the Musem of Unworkable Devices for analysis. There's a flaw there, trust me. |
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 Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
9438 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:07:16 AM
Interesting, but the bearings would still wear out. So no, not really a perpetual motion machine. |
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 chickiesue86
Male, 70 & Over, Canada
273 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:04:35 AM
"you can't explain that" |
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 patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
2977 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:57:36 AM
It is cool, but as soon as you strap a generator to it, the magnetic resistance of the generator will drain the kinetic energy and eventually stop it from turning.
Sorry folks. The laws of physics still stand. No free energy here. |
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chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
1506 Posts
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Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:46:21 AM
Link: Evolution of Perpetual Motion, WORKING Free Energy [Rate Link] - What am I missing? Could this really work? |
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