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Smoking Weed With The President

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TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:26:35 AM
NOCASH: while a lot of marajuana anonymouse people will say they were functional in the society, they were able to recognise, and see through abstaining, that they could be even more so without drug abuse. Many reported being happier, and enjoying life even more when being free. But each person is unique, and to each their own. But the fact is clear: drug abuse destroys lives and minds.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:18:56 AM
Jerm_Leather: You're too assuming too much from what i'm saying. Nicotine and alcohol abuse DOES destroy minds and lives. They're legal now, but if a movement wanted to make them not legal i'd be all for it. The point is.. we have 2 drugs legal (tobacco/alcohol), that we know people are abusing and destroying either their minds or lives. So it's not sensible to make any more drugs legal based on this, decriminalise weed, sure, but not leaglise it. Next thing you know meth or heroin users will be pushing for legalised meth or heroin.

NOCASH: "By my logic?", look you must have missed what i wrote, so let me copy paste it "If you can use it in moderation, then all the power to you." But just because you can smoke it every day, don't assume everyone else can without experiencing problems, because a lot of people will, and its possible that you will someday too at this rate, seeing you're in the 18-29 range. most MA folks are older with a similar story.

NOCASH
Male, 18-29, Canada
 423 Posts
Saturday, September 01, 2012 7:19:45 AM
TheGuySmiley, I smoke almost everyday and have little to know problem being a functional person in society, if you are a responsible person there is no reason why you cant get high everyday and enjoy your life thoroughly. By your logic I should be curled up in a corner high out of my mind failing to see where it all went wrong but it hasn't so I'm gunna keep on toking and loving life.

Jerm_Leather
Male, 18-29, Western US
 885 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 11:24:18 PM
@TheGuySmiley:
Alcohol is legal and more people suffer from alcoholism than most other chemical dependencies, yet I don't see people like you advocating for prohibition. Same goes for tobacco use and prescription drug addiction. It seems to me that most people that are against pot being legalized seem to have the same perspective of those that are against gay marriage. You don't like it, or agree with it, so everyone else should suffer because of your opinions/beliefs. It's time to start being more open minded and stop letting archaic perspectives dictate current policy.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 9:00:06 PM
McGovern1981: marijuana anonymous

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10226 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 1:50:56 PM
A healthy society is a society free of drug abuse.



False dichotomy, Amsterdam doesn't have the draconian drug laws like we do and they're doing just fine.

AdamBomb
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 43 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 12:32:42 PM
I think it should it be legal simply because you can't die from it. If you don't smoke it fine, but mind your own damn business. 1:6 people in prison right now are in there for marijuana related charges. Laws should only be written to prevent one person from infringing upon the rights of another. It's just a plant. Plain and simple. There is no other drug, besides mushrooms, that hasn't been chemically manipulated in some way or is completely synthetic. How is it that the most natural of all the drugs out there is classified as schedule one. If we make things illegal because of what people might do (oh they might get addicted) then everything will be illegal. People need to be able to make decisions for themselves instead of having the government make the choice for them. I would LOVE to choose to pick up some pot brownies instead of a 30 pack of beer because that's my preference. I hate hang overs. But I can't because the government thinks they know what's best.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13236 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 12:27:56 PM
You say weed has little to no negative effects, but go to MA, and you'll hear of the real anguish it causes. The fact is when it's abused it can destroy lives an minds.


HEH? I live in MA are we talking about the same place? Mabey I missed something still illegal here just been decriminalized ya get a ticket for anything under 1/4 oz.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 11:53:11 AM
PG: you should read some studies too, because they point to what I'm saying, that drug abuse does destroy lives and minds.

If you can use it in moderation, then all the power to you. But there's a large percentage of people who use drugs regularly/recreationally and can't.

The problem is that they need to escape, or want to enjoy it, more and more. They don't feel it's a problem because it's not hurting anyone. Then while they are crossing the line from use into abuse, they think they are still using in moderation. It's hard for someone who's abusing to see where the line is, ironically because of the drug. It usually continues until things start to fall apart around them because of the abuse. Fortunately, a lot of people get out before then, realising the problem, but this is why it's best to never use drugs in the first place unless absolutely necessary.

A healthy society is a society free of drug abuse.

ariadnese
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 79 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 11:33:48 AM
I honestly don't understand people that can not complain about drunk people but are bothered by potheads. I recently started smoking but for a long long time I was against it, however I hung around a bunch of people that smoked and the were always fine. Drunk people on the other hand I hate. They've puked on and ruined at least 2 friends couches and one of mine (once a friend puked on the wall and forever after that it smelled disgusting), they're generally loud and annoying at least the ones I know, they stumble around like idiots and you have to babysit them in public, my roommate and another friend crashed their cars from drunk driving and a friends friend was killed by a drunk driver, I've also been sexually assaulted by a drunk guy at a party. I've never EVER had anything that bad or annoying happen with a pothead.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 11:26:13 AM
PG: you assume too much. My stance on drugs is this: Drug abuse destroys lives and minds, and a person's best bet is to never do drugs period.

Sometimes it may be necessary to use drugs, like using asprin if you have a splitting head ache. Some drugs are prescribed only by doctors to aid with an ailment, surgery, etc. There are drugs sold legally for recreational purposes like alcohol and nicotine. Plus there are street drugs which are actually drugs of abuse. All of these drugs can be abused, destroying lives and minds which is where my stance comes from.

I'm for weed being decriminalised, but not legalised. Legalising weed will only only increase the number of minds and lives destroyed, just like the abuse of legally sold tobacco and alcohol do right now. You say weed has little to no negative effects, but go to MA, and you'll hear of the real anguish it causes. The fact is when it's abused it can destroy lives an minds.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5691 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 8:30:33 AM
@TheGuySmiley: You still tout this "drug abuse destroys minds and lives" but you insist that use constitutes abuse for weed but not for things like alcohol or gambling. Why do those deserve special privilege, especially since weed has little to no negative effects on a person assuming they don't abuse the substance, and even then it's just an addiction problem, not the weed itself that is harming them. Get off your high horse and read some actual science on the stuff. It's not physically harmful, period. That IQ study was only relevant to teenagers, but I've always advocated minimum ages for pot. If it's good enough for cigarettes and alcohol it's good enough for pot.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5691 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 8:26:51 AM
because since it's been illegal, drug sellers have had violence over it (though the true fight is always money, not pot itself). If we don't include those, we can't include violence over alcohol,

This would only make sense if you were comparing violence associated with alcohol during prohibition. The things like domestic violence etc. nowadays don't compare equally to a prohibited substance.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1538 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 8:16:17 AM
Vid was spot on.

onoffonoffon
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2087 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 7:05:14 AM
The strength argument doesn't work. Look at high proof liquor. Much more regular strength alcohol is sold. High proof doesn't encourage excessive drinking.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13236 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 7:04:38 AM
I support legalizing it but the guys in the video don't help make the case. I mean really WTF did that guy draw his beard on with a sharpie!!!

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 985 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 6:28:04 AM
No, no, please, keep smoking dope by all means. Hopefully you'll forget to go vote for B. Hussein Obama on November 2nd.

nubblins
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1753 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 5:26:49 AM
Though I'd really like to know if the true answer of how many people have died from weed is zero--because since it's been illegal, drug sellers have had violence over it (though the true fight is always money, not pot itself). If we don't include those, we can't include violence over alcohol, so.. hmm.. I wonder if the facts here have been misrepresented.

Just curious, of course.

nubblins
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1753 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 5:18:23 AM
Lonnngg rap, but good points. :)

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 996 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 4:26:39 AM
@TheGuySmiley: "Researchers found persistent users of the drug, who started smoking it at school, had lower IQ scores as adults. "

This is old news, it is now only confirmed. It's not a surprise that any substance use during the brain development phase hinders normal growth.. It just proves that mind altering substances are for grownups. No weed for minors, that's what responsible pothead thinks anyway. no alcohol and i'm not so sure about coffee either...

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 3:02:58 AM
Well they say weed lowers your IQ, besides we all know drug abuse destroys minds and lives, so we shouldn't really be in the process of legalising more drugs for recreational use, but working on removing the ones that we already have.

RoboPatton
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2429 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 1:23:07 AM
A very poignant video. Did not know that about disney, but poo that makes sense now!

the_phantom
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 509 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 12:37:02 AM
i think weed might have a chance of getting legalized, if it wasnt so damn strong compared to its 60s counterpart

chickiesue86
Male, 70 & Over, Canada
 273 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:38:26 PM
all very good points. all points politicians are very well aware of. unfortunately the only hope our generation has for change is to wait for congress to grow old and die. one day our generation will be in office.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 13491 Posts
Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:23:13 PM
I would dearly LOVE to ask the president 2 questions:

1) Where would you be today had you been arrested for drug possession?

2) What do you have to say to the millions of Americans whose lives the government has deliberately and systematically destroyed because they got caught doing exactly what you got away with?

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