insane_ai Male, 30-39, Midwest US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:42:23 AM I think I'll just light up a fatty and forget about this....... |
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Sistarose Female, 30-39, Australia
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:24:00 AM Smoking dope makes you stupid? They had to really test for that, ohh science get a hobby. |
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HumanAction Male, 18-29, Midwest US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:50:32 AM "'Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which further increase the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke." Source I think it would be naive to assume that SMOKING marijuana has zero negative health effects. Repetitive inhalation of any smoke (even campfire) adversely affects the lungs. That being said, I don't think marijuana is any more dangerous than tobacco or alcohol. My libertarian sense also says that it's none of the governments business what I choose to do with my body as long as it does not strip another of their civil liberties. |
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EVILLECUTTER Male, 18-29, Midwest US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:37:12 AM as far as our fed govt is concerned herione is way better for you anyways |
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ohplease Male, 50-59, Midwest US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:24:32 AM As a 1-3gm daily smoker for the last 35 years, am I less intelligent, doubtful. Is my memory effected, yes. Would i trade the enjoyment I've derived from it for a few IQ points, never! |
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trippyhippy9 Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:53:58 AM 1 in 20 people admitted to smoking pot before age 18 in a study of over 1000 people. Does that mean that only 50 people out of the 1000 actually showed the results they are alluding to? The sample size of this study if far too low to give any meaningful results. Here is a study that says it increases neurogenesis by as much as 40% in the hippocampus. Link to study |
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Gerry1of1 Male, 50-59, Western US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 7:15:51 AM
CrakrJak, "Gotta love the lame and often misspelled and grammatically incorrect responses to this study from the pot smokers here at IAB. By their accounts it's a miracle drug good for everything that ails you. Sorry guys, but the fact is, it's a carcinogen with negative psychological effects." First, "Gotta" isn't a propper work. I know it's in the online dictionaries, but stil. . . . Second, pot isn't a carcinogen. The paper you roll it in is Accuracy counts! |
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patchgrabber Male, 30-39, Canada
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:59:52 AM After reviewing the study, I find some interesting anomalies, namely the standard error bars on their results are quite large. I don't know what kind of statistical magic they used to obtain significant results, but I'll believe them for now until another study with better results comes along to support/refute them. |
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patchgrabber Male, 30-39, Canada
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:43:02 AM Here's the study, but I'm not sure if everyone can read it since I have many journal licenses, so I hope you all can read it. Crakr: "...but the fact is, it's a carcinogen..." Keep telling yourself that. |
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dm2754 Male, 30-39, Western US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:37:59 AM gun shoots to the head Lowers Your IQ For Good |
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dm2754 Male, 30-39, Western US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:37:23 AM ageing Lowers Your IQ For Good |
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patchgrabber Male, 30-39, Canada
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:30:05 AM Well, the attention/memory can be dismissed, because it's just the opinion of close family members. But it is interesting that it could affect the brain while it's still growing. I guess this is part of the reason why we don't make it legal for teenagers to drink alcohol either... |
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McGovern1981 Male, 30-39, Eastern US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:18:28 AM Alcohol kills brain cells also. |
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Link_Hiei Male, 18-29, Eastern US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:59:13 AM Moderation.
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LordJim Male, 50-59, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:53:48 AM Apparently over-18 'college smokers' don't have this problem. They may not perform as well while smoking heavily but there is no indication of damage once the brain is fully formed. So a 13 year old who smokes as much as I did when I was 25 (not huge, but regular)is going to do some serious damage. Probably not as much as if we substituted the word 'drinks' for 'smokes'. It seems common sense that we apply the same rules to weed as we do to booze and baccy. Age restrictions, quality control,licensed outlets, driving restrictions, health education etc. |
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New_Guy Male, 30-39, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:13:55 AM i agree. |
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Chetbaker Male, 18-29, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:59:50 AM New Guy for president! |
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New_Guy Male, 30-39, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:56:07 AM Cool! Now we know drugs are bad lets address alcohol and all the legal drugs that get sold in shops all over the world... Or let's legalize it all and get a government policy and stop the enormous black market that profits from this and supply's funds to organized crimes and gangs not to mention decriminalize the drug uses. Get them clean drugs and ultimately the help they need? No? |
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LordJim Male, 50-59, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:51:48 AM Gerry, They did. The methodology seems to be impeccable. |
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Skrubz Male, 18-29, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:48:44 AM You guys should actually read the article. It says "teenagers." ANY kind of drug will hurt a developing brain. There is still no evidence whatsoever that pot does anything negative to your brain if you start smoking as an adult. |
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CrakrJak Male, 40-49, Midwest US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:36:30 AM Gotta love the lame and often misspelled and grammatically incorrect responses to this study from the pot smokers here at IAB. By their accounts it's a miracle drug good for everything that ails you. Sorry guys, but the fact is, it's a carcinogen with negative psychological effects. |
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Chetbaker Male, 18-29, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:29:01 AM @CoyoteKing and many others: It's sad to see so many people critiquing this study as if they know better how to do scientific research than a team of professors and researchers who spent a good portion of their lives learning how to gather unbiased and statistically correct data. This study is being published in PNAS, a respected journal. Like all studies published in PNAS, it's methodology has succesfully passed independent peer review. If you're going to spew your opinions about things you don't know alot about and act as if they're facts then you're going to look like an idiot to anyone who does know how it works. |
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Reignblazer Male, 18-29, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:09:40 AM I'll smoke to that |
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LordJim Male, 50-59, Europe
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:02:23 AM On the other hand... |
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Gerry1of1 Male, 50-59, Western US
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Wednesday, August 29, 2012 12:50:48 AM
How do they know it isn't just naturally stupid kids use marijuana? They need to test them before pot use, then after. |
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