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Honor Killer Proud

Hits: 9869 | Rating: (2.4) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Andrew155
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Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10272 Posts
Friday, August 31, 2012 7:33:11 PM
Atheism and Communism are tied at the hip. I don't know of even one atheist that believes in capitalism, would salute the American flag, or even stand during the national anthem.




"As an atheist capitalist I say bull5h17 to that."

kasuko
Male, 30-39, Canada
 8 Posts
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:25:47 PM
That translation was not TRUE to what the man actually was saying. The way the translations were worded shows that the interpreter had a bias against that culture / religion. Remember guys, we used to do the very same thing as little as a 100 years ago. These people are much poorer TODAY than we were 100 years ago. They are generally illiterate or at best educated by religious community centers that teach them this manner is the CORRECT manner of living. I am not condoning this activity by any means, I am just trying to even the playing field before accusations are blindly put forth.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13431 Posts
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 7:47:52 AM
Didn't Muhammed bang a 9 year old....

Brometheus
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 357 Posts
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 6:53:18 AM
"As a non-American, I salute the American flag at every opportunity. I have a very deep respect for Americans, as something of a historian of WWII in Europe. THOSE were Americans."

I remember you once saying that you hate nationalism. Why do you salute our flag then?

I'm not trying to start an argument, but more hoping to get a new perspective.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25679 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 10:48:53 PM
*Worse even.

To say "you cannot have the same rights as me because you like a different political system (or Party)" is just as bigoted, in my books, as racism, sexism or any other -isms.



The "far right" and the "far left" (Fascism and Communism) are the same damn thing! Bob Dobbs said so!

Cut me some Slack, eh?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25679 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 10:28:27 PM
One final word. The greatest hypocrisy is that Crakrjak himself (correct me if I'm wrong Crackrjak) is long term unemployed/disabled.

@davymid: Has @madest hacked your account? HE complains about that a lot, eh?
And I write angry letters to @FancyLad protesting it... I guess you're getting one also.

As I understand it: He PAID FOR insurance during his working years. Becoming unable to work he CLAIMED that insurance (in whatever form it is).

IT IS HIS RIGHT to do so. Not "option" or "he's allowed to" it's his RIGHT. Neither you, nor ANYONE ELSE can deny that right, ok?

Attacking him because he excercised his rights is EXACTLY the same as telling him "N*ggers ride in the back of the bus - that's the law!". Worse ever.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25679 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 10:21:23 PM
The reason he killed her was because of the suspected cheating,

@SethDog: He also killed her sister AND her mother. 3 women were killed.

@El_Chinche: As @CrakrJak mentioned: Old Testament laws don't apply to Christians. They CAN use them as "guides" but NOT to over-rule New Testament teachings. Get it?

Isn't a soldier killing the enemy considered an honor killing?

@tsiemens: Honor-ABLE! Soldiers killing other soldier in battle is "honorable" - NOT the same at all.

@paperduck: "Crimes of Passion" tend to happen really suddenly, this guy planned it carefully. Also: most who commit CoP regret it afterwards, not brag about it!
And while it USED TO be an excuse in our culture, it's been quite a long time since the courts let someone go for CoP mass murder, eh?

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 8:26:02 PM
One final word. The greatest hypocrisy is that Crakrjak himself (correct me if I'm wrong Crackrjak) is long term unemployed/disabled. Crakrjak, you've been suckling off the government teat for, what, a decade now? How do you equate, in your world-view, that everything vaguely socialist is anti-American, when without that you'd be on the streets?

Final final note: As a non-American, I salute the American flag at every opportunity. I have a very deep respect for Americans, as something of a historian of WWII in Europe. THOSE were Americans.

Crakrjak, I have no respect for people like you.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 8:25:55 PM
In other news, the f*cking warzone that is the Democratic Republic of the Congo ain't necessarily Democratic. North f*cking Korea, official name the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, ain't necessarily that Democratic either.

But no. This dick called Crackrjak will turn the tables around on everything, including redefining the f*cking dictionary where appropriate. Everything that smacks of atheism, science, liberalism, environmentalism, is inherently evil and anti-American. Because his Bible tells him so. Ask him about Evolution some day, and he'll tell you how there's no such thing. Seriously, the man's a dick.

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 8:25:11 PM
Most sane, rational people, professional academic or layman, will concede that the Communist regimes and the Fascist regimes of the 20th century were examples of wrong on opposite ends of the spectrum. Communism being the left gone too far, and Fascism the right gone too far, respectively.

Not Crackrjak though. No, he clings to a higher credence. Apparently, as he's dictated to me many times before, Fascism is in fact also extreme left. He's pointed out to me many times in such debates that the very name of the poster-boy for fascism, the Nazis, was short for National Socialists! Imagine!

davymid
Male, 30-39, Europe
 12078 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 8:24:36 PM
Crakrjak said: Atheism and Communism are tied at the hip. I don't know of even one atheist that believes in capitalism, would salute the American flag, or even stand during the national anthem.

Patchgrabber countered:
And nice job trying to connect atheism with anti-Americanism and communism. I guess it must mean that Christianity and fascism are tied at the hip too then, huh?

Patch, save your breath. I've been through the mill with Crackrjak (and many others like him) before.

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 866 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 7:18:14 PM
The parents have English accents, they are not outsiders, they are English. They tried to hide it because they know that it is not acceptable in their culture.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12320 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 7:08:36 PM
That's an entire culture so messed up in the head that they (yes, pretty much all of them) consider it to be a matter of honour to murder defenceless women for having been perceived to have failed to submit to male authority? This culture is to intent about this that even when they immigrate to other countries second generation immigrants still won't integrate into the new society and still consider it an inescapable matter of honour to commit these deeds?

As an immigrant of sorts myself, I would expect to be shown the door (or a firing squad) if I massacred my in-laws.

What's wrong with these people? Religion.

Saddest thing is, in Pakistan, he'd get no more than three years apiece, running concurrently. Then a party and congratulations. Wahey, he's a hero of the community.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12320 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 6:55:21 PM
"This has very little to do with religion. I know that's a psychologically safe place to categorize it and separate yourself from it, but the fact is, we have different words to describe similar behavior. "temporary insanity", "crime of passion", etc."

If you believe that then I hope your daughter goes to Pakistan to get married. She may not come back in a jar; I hope she prospers, but you will have ample opportunity to question your statement as you wonder after her well-being.

Simbosan
Male, 40-49, Asia
 160 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 3:07:13 PM
Crakr: "Without religion there is no moral guidance except what the state says is legal."

What you mean is, YOU have no moral sense other than that you picked up out of a 2000 year old book. YOU have no concept of right and wrong aside from what you are told at church.

YOU are amoral, you have no moral compass. You would gladly kill if your pastor told you to.

A psychopath can be defined as someone with no moral judgement. Sounds like you.

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 866 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 2:07:01 PM
Sad but true, these things do happen even in the more developed countries of the world.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 1:28:41 PM
I always have to question those video cuts like this.. you could basically make someone say something they never said with them.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1706 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 12:03:15 PM
This has very little to do with religion. I know that's a psychologically safe place to categorize it and separate yourself from it, but the fact is, we have different words to describe similar behavior. "temporary insanity", "crime of passion", etc. everyone, EVEN YOU, has their buttons. And when they're pressed, people react pretty much the same.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1706 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 11:57:42 AM
Andrew155: I don't think you understood what I meant. When this sort of thing happens in the United States or europe (and it does happen, do some google searches) it's not called "honor killing", but it's basically the same thing. Someone gets killed because someone else suspects infidelity.

"Crime of Passion" from Wiki:
A typical crime of passion might involve a husband who discovers his wife has made him a cuckold and proceeds to brutally batter or even kill his wife and the man with whom she was involved.

Don't be so naive to think this never happens in the US.

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2681 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 11:53:09 AM
Uhhhh... Crakr? I hate religion, I don't find it useful for myself, though I will not impede on others' religions so long as they don't impede on mine, or thereof lack of religion, and generally vote for Republican ie being patriotic, standing for the SSB, etc.

That last statement of yours is pretty dumbfounding.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 8:27:52 AM
And nice job trying to connect atheism with anti-Americanism and communism. I guess it must mean that Christianity and fascism are tied at the hip too then, huh?

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 8:22:46 AM
Without religion there is no moral guidance except what the state says is legal.

orly? Well let's dissect this: Either one's motives for following the "moral" word of God are moral motives, or they are not. If they are, then that person is already equipped with moral motivations, and the introduction of God adds nothing extra. But if they are not moral motives, then they will be motives that cannot appropriately motivate morality at all. The conclusion being that any appeal to God either adds to nothing at all, or it adds the wrong sort of thing. To take it further, how can an action be moral if the alternative is infinite punishment?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17137 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 8:01:44 AM
patchgrabber" They didn't do it because they hated religious people, they did it because they were greedy, immoral and hungry for power.


No they did it because they wanted their leaders worshiped like gods and religion stood in the way of that. Also, as you said, came immorality. Without religion there is no moral guidance except what the state says is legal.

Atheism and Communism are tied at the hip. I don't know of even one atheist that believes in capitalism, would salute the American flag, or even stand during the national anthem.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5717 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 7:20:23 AM
Tens of millions have been killed by atheist communist regimes.

This is just stupid. Correlation implying causation. They didn't do it because they hated religious people, they did it because they were greedy, immoral and hungry for power. Same as how just because Hitler was Christian doesn't mean he did what he did BECAUSE he was Christian. Stop this nonsense.

BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2005 Posts
Monday, August 27, 2012 6:18:42 AM
Funny how I've worked with Muslims all these years and they've been friendly and warm and kind and never killed my profane heathen ass even once. I guess they're waiting for just the right moment?

It's culture, not the religion. Same thing applies when some bunch of dumbass rednecks get together and kill a gay dude; the rednecks are all regular members of the First Dumbass Baptist Church, but that doesn't make their act a Christian one.

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