 Draculya
Male, 30-39, Asia
 6288 Posts
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Saturday, August 25, 2012 1:31:11 AM
I no longer believe in US gun control. Why should the rest of the world put up with Americans invading them on a pretense and shooting them in cold blood when if the Americans public can't share in the fun? They should legalise automatic weapons, grenades, RPGs, heck even WOMDs as available. Make it like Darra in Pakistan, with every uneducated malcontent toting a Kalashnikov. Next, cut police budgets, deny all public healthcare and rely on prayer instead to heal the wounded. The conservative right has it right! |
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 An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
723 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 9:58:29 PM
Him and about half a dozen others |
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 Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1514 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 7:49:39 PM
Republicans, can't live with 'em, can't take 'em out. It's New York,Baby,Fuggedaboudit! He was taken down faster than a Kanye tweet! Huzzah! |
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 ledzeppeloyd
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2184 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 7:46:44 PM
america is going to sh/it |
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 Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
3305 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 6:56:37 PM
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 piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 3:59:19 PM
rburridge we are working hard for you 
(and we are not payed too) |
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 rburridge
Female, 18-29, Europe
58 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 3:55:36 PM
Why don't you all just agree to disagree, because I can't see anyone giving in and suddenly having a change of heart about what they believe in any time soon haha I love reading through these sorts of threads. |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 3:52:29 PM
McGovern1981 seem more like some "secret agency" was delivering weapons to some group of dogs to destabilize the political situation and to create tension inside population. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10187 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 3:40:39 PM
You are also aware the UK speaks English and is quick to point out our wrong doings kind of funny they did nothing for what you mention huh? |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10187 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 3:39:23 PM
"years of lead" hmmm sounds like you didn't destroy all those guns huh? |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 3:10:32 PM
HumanAction was an answer to McG. In any case is not a personal "unresolved issue" is a national unresolved issue. And living just 200 meters from where a bomb exploded killing lot of civilians in my city during the "years of lead" ( the years where CIA was really active here) and seing that after lot of years the process have lead to nothing due of some "external pressure"..."intrigue" me. |
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 HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
1124 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:58:02 PM
@piperfawn: I believe this is now the second time of three discussions I've seen you fall back on attacking the CIA. I get the feeling that you have some "unresolved issues" regarding this agency.
It could be said that you seem obsessed with the matter. In fact, one could suggest that you lack the firepower to continue a prolonged discussion on any other matter and that your CIA quips are nothing more that a fall-back plan for when you reach the extent of your "wisdom."
But that's all hypothetical nonsense, right? |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:46:14 PM
Hedkwab Foreign articles talking about your National organization CIA, i can find articles in my languge about what she did here but i can't find articles about what she did here in your language...go figure out what your beloved agency want you think of her. Covering the truth is the motto especialy to your citizens...this was just what i was suggesting. |
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 Hedkwab
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
340 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:40:28 PM
@Piperfawn
OMG! Foreign articles not written in English? FARPIN CONSPIRACY MAN!! ITS A CONSPIRACY!!! THEY'RE ROUNDING US UP FOR FODDER!!! |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:40:13 PM
An-egg let me be your google bitch for a bit too United States war crimes
All this started about a discussion between me and Human Action assuming that i can't talk cause Mussolini was an italian like me,i think that this prove my point. |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:28:15 PM
McGovern1981 if you want i have others links about CIA in Italy, but guess what? Impossible to find in english....hmm strange. |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:25:03 PM
McGovern1981 Italy and the CIA |
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An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
723 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:19:09 PM
I gave several examples. The article says that the US did all those things alone. It doesn't mention the multitude of other countries involved. The US DID NOT invade Iraq, a coalition of countries did; the US DID NOT invade Libya, a coalition of countries, initially France, did; the US DID NOT invade Korea, the North Koreans attacked South Korea and a coalition of countries on both sides responded;...
The article makes out that the US is to blame for all those wars and all the deaths. This is completely untrue. |
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 Evil_Eye
Male, 18-29, Europe
1275 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:18:05 PM
Nice... 6 pages of comments from about 5 people. It is TL;DR for me, but I can assume nobody convinced the other of anything. I say we can close this debate until the next American shooting murder post.
So a few days. |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:13:59 PM
McGovern1981CIA in Italy
Operation Gladio
Years of Lead (Italy)Enrico Mattei
A Timeline of CIA Atrocities |
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An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
723 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 2:00:46 PM
Well, asy you don't need a google bitch,
here is some data on accidents |
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piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
3156 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 1:57:42 PM
Oh An-egg i don't want you as a scrambled egg. Thought we was just chatting a bit.
For you the article is biased but you don't give me demonstration about your feeling, that's all. I don't need google bitches i was just asking some question thinking you had the answers without the help of google, sorry. Trolling was not my intention. |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10187 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 1:55:44 PM
@An-egg
Don't bother he thinks the CIA operates in Italy to oppresss the people too. Europeons(yes I ment that) like him scapegoat the USA for all the worlds problems. |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2854 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 1:53:55 PM
So the problem seems to be socio-economic.
Damn, I-A-B. Your character counter is never correct. |
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FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2854 Posts
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Friday, August 24, 2012 1:53:23 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think serious gun control like in Australia is an answer in a place like the U.S., mainly because people won't accept it. However, I think it's wrong to preach gun ownership as the solution for gun crime. I think that attitude gives a bit of psychological ammunition, so to speak, to those who choose to abuse guns. Obviously this is not a scientific claim, but it's quite a leap to say that flooding a society with guns makes us safer than reducing the number.
To prevent these mass shootings, our society needs to approach mental health problems better. And to prevent urban crime, our society needs to improve socio-economic problems to help people get out of poverty. The violent crime rate has generally decreased in our society, yet it is remarkably high in poorer, urban parts of cities. Our poorer Southern states have a disproportionately high crime rate, and are lax on gun control, while richer states have less crime. So the problem seems to be socio-econ |
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