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The 18 Most Suppressed Inventions Ever

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Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11761 Posts
Monday, August 20, 2012 12:00:34 AM
6) Water powered vehicles. Utter bollocks from start to finish.

7) Chronovisor. Seeing into the past and future. Yeah, right.

I've changed my mind. I'm not bored enough to bother with all this ludicrous drivel. My deliberately ridiculous claim about archmagi and elves is looking very sensible in comparison.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11761 Posts
Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:57:35 PM
What the hell, I'm bored. So I'll do them all:

1) EV1 didn't make a profit. No suppression needed. Electric cars aren't ready for mass use today and they were much less so back then.

2) Streetcars...partly true, but people don't like fixed-route buses anyway.

3) That Lupo was a special model that was never intended for mass sale because it wasn't commercially viable or practically useful. Its target was 78mpg if you're using USA gallons, not 99. And it was crap in every way.

4) Free energy. Oh goody, more silly lies about Tesla. Nobody with a thought in their head believes it.

5) Cannabis the cancer cure suppressed by the silly USA government making it a schedule 1 drug...there's a world outside the USA and research into the medical applications of cannabis goes on there (here in the UK, for example). And no, the results aren't a cure for cancer. Although THC in high enough doses does kill cells and that might be useful.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11761 Posts
Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:34:04 PM
As for cold fusion having been invented and suppressed, it's just plain silly. May as well claim that a party of archmages and elven artificers created magical artefacts that are powered by mana and produce terawatts of clean energy, but Sauron killed them or something, blah blah blah.

Actually, that's a bad example. It's too internally consistent to compare with the raving conspiracy nutjobbery and it hasn't been proven false repeatedly. So it's much more plausible than the conspiracy babbling.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11761 Posts
Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:26:56 PM
#18 Hemp supression is real, simply because it looks a lot like pot.


It's the only one of these silly conspiracy babblings that has any basis in fact...and hemp "looks a lot like pot" because they're the same plant - cannabis sativa. Hemp is just a name given to cannabis plants with low levels of THC. So there are potential problems with disguised large-scale growing of cannabis plants with higher levels of THC. It's still hemp, technically.

Besides, hemp is grown outside the USA anyway. Here in the UK, for example. It's not the miracle plant advocates make it out to be.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11761 Posts
Sunday, August 19, 2012 11:10:48 PM
Hopefully by 2020 there will be a working fusion reactor making more energy than it uses.


Bizarrely, the European 70-year fusion power project that started ~1970 is still ahead of schedule. A massive international technology project with that length of foresight is remarkable anyway, but for it to remain ahead of schedule is stunning.

2020 isn't the planned date for a sustained Q>1, though. 2020 is the start date for ITER, the research facility that's the next step towards it. 2019 now - they brought it forward because they're ahead of schedule again. 2027 for full power, although there's talk of bringing that forward maybe as far as 2019 because of the breakthroughs at JET.

But an actual power station still isn't on the cards before 2040. ITER is a research facility. Full power would be Q=~10 and a 500MW output, but it's only expected to be sustainable for a few minutes.

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 607 Posts
Sunday, August 19, 2012 7:59:45 PM
Ugh... This is mostly "Conspiracies for Gullible Idiots 101". The moron who wrote this couldn't even spell "cold fusion" properly. If most of these really worked, there's no way they could be suppressed world wide.

MeGrendel's basically nailed it here. "TruTV" is false advertising.

Hot fusion isn't even "suppressed", it just hasn't been mastered yet.

@5Cats: No, you can't make free energy (i.e. energy for nothing). That's basic thermodynamics. Metals have nothing to do with it. I think the author of this piece was confusing broadcast energy with free energy anyways, but broadcast energy is ridiculously inefficient. ("Overunity Generator" and "Free Energy" are basically redundant otherwise.)

And yes, hemp/marijuana suppression is real (though not quite as "magical" as most proponents claim), but "THC cures cancer" is not.

mamba
Male, 18-29, Europe
 618 Posts
Sunday, August 19, 2012 3:42:15 PM
'looks a lot like pot'
umm....it is.

Also the thing about THC and cancer has some founding but is exaggerated greatly.

Fusion is a thing and is being worked on with money poured in by governments across the world. Hopefully by 2020 there will be a working fusion reactor making more energy than it uses.

Zed68
Male, 40-49, Europe
 978 Posts
Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:34:16 AM
A big lot of hoaxes put together...

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 872 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 11:31:24 PM
The Lupo exists, Google it and the 70ish mpg VW Polo TDi which is a perfectly respectable car. They might just be conspiracy theories or they might be true. I don't see any real proof that they are not. Then again, anyone with a basic knowledge of science will know that you can't prove something is not true only that you can't find it or prove it. Global warming anyone?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26662 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:39:06 PM
#2: It's proven in court: Auto, oil and tire companies conspired to buy and shut down ALL the streetcar companies. The only reason San Francisco retained theirs is because the busses couldn't climb the hills.

#9 Wilhelm Reich is a classic case of the US Gov't attacking a citizen's rights. So what if he was a kook? To jail him and BURN HIS BOOKS is the answer?

#10 is a varient of one of Nicola Tesla's inventions. The only reason he didn't get it working was that metals weren't strong enough back then.

#18 Hemp supression is real, simply because it looks a lot like pot.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4861 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:20:21 PM
EV1: No conspiricy, it wasn't viable.
Streetcars: Only work in limited fashion in some cities. Doesn't go where you want when you want.
99-MPG car: Only exist in vehicles that fit one person and ride on bicycle tires.
Free Energy: Myth
Cancer Cure: Myth
Water Powered Vehicles: No viable
Chronovisor: Myth
Rife Devices: Discredited.
Cloudbuster: etc.
Overunity Generator: Myth
Cold Fushion: A ways away, it even possible.
etc.
etc.

Why not just call it "Eighteen Things That Never Worked but We Want So Bad We Make poo Up".

I say the Flying Car is being surpressed, because all the comics said I'd have one by 2000 and there's not one in my driveway.

RuralNinja
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 521 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:07:48 PM
The title says 18 suppressed inventions, but most of those are pseudoscience at best. There's a reason most of those don't exist, and its not because 'the man' is trying to keep them down.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:25:14 PM

The prius plug in gets 99 mpg so that wasn't exactly killed, was it.

Altaru
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3500 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:59:23 PM
If all these "free energy" and "cold fusion" scams actually worked, the inventors wouldn't have to worry about conspiracies.

The product would sell itself. After all, if someone was seriously powering their entire house without paying a dime, don't you think they would spread the word? Then don't you think other people would be interested? Then don't you think there would be a market?

But there isn't a market. Because people don't spread the word. Because these scams don't work. And they always come with some exception clause about "experimental technology, may not work in all situations" to avoid people suing for their money back.

It's ridiculous to think that you can get more than you put in. That's not how science or energy works, folks, a basic physics class'll teach you that.

darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:50:23 PM
Houston has a light rail, and doesn't San Fran still have street cars?

why does TruTV suck so much?

Burgh
Male, 40-49, Western US
 294 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 4:18:40 PM
As MadMan66 says. I have a tens unit and it runs on a 9 volt.

MadMan66
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 66 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:19:25 PM
I work in physical therapy and we use the TENS unit on patients all the time. It's even available for them to buy... so I question the validity of this trutv article

WeePee
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 611 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:22:32 PM
yay for propaganda!
and yay for a return of the trutv worthless links!
/sarcasm

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:21:15 PM
"Hot fushion". Awesome

It's so convenient that all of the world's problems, literally all of them, have already been solved. If only we could get the man to stop oppressing us.

that1joshguy
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 223 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:06:29 PM
try this

fancylad
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2523 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:54:02 PM
Link: The 18 Most Suppressed Inventions Ever [Rate Link] - Conspiracy theorists, get your tin hats--these 18 inventions died, but who killed 'em? The government? The Illuminati?


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