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Olympic Glory In Proportion, Per Capita

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nijd
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 269 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:50:04 PM
All I need to know is USA had the most medals by far. No other country will ever know what that's like.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11737 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:02:17 PM
Also, it would be a much better showing if you based a chart not on the population of a particular country, but of the ammount of applicants they had representing them in the games.


That would be biased in a different way, that's all. 100 olympic-grade atheletes from a population of 500M isn't the same as 100 olympic-grade athletes from a population of 5M.

I can't think of a fair way to make a comparison. As you point out, this method is heavily biased in favour of small populations. For example, if the USA had won *every* gold medal they still wouldn't have had a gold medals per capita figure as high as the quite of few of the countries on this list.

Scuzoid
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1270 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:56:12 AM
@LordJim

Wtf did that have to do with what I said? Certain events limited the number of competitors based on their country, not their performance. Proportional....?

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4914 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 8:11:32 AM
Also, look at regions. Did New Hampshire do better than South Dakota? Yorkshire seems to have done very well, but some have suggested that was because they all had Brian Glover as PE teacher.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4914 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 8:01:26 AM
If we can get 'Jumping Off Ridiculously High Things Without Sane Precautions While Smashed On Vodka' to be an Olympic event the Russians could make a major come back.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4914 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:57:46 AM
Scuzoid

No, it's not proportional. The highest proportion was Cook Islands with eight athletes, representing 40 per 100,000. GB was less than 1 per 100,000 (although Team GB did have the largest squad).

But it was a good Games, let's not squabble over who gets to wave the biggest flag.

(Well, except literally and that was us.)

All kinds of factors are in play and that is why the IOC does not publish league tables. An Olympian from my (small) home town got a gold in rowing and you can bet we will celebrate that when he comes home on Saturday, It doesn't mean we are somehow 'better' than the home town of the Olympian who took silver.

paddy215
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1676 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:56:53 AM
As an Irishman I'd like to thank whoever it was that made punching people in the face an Olympic sport.

Now all we need to do is get drinking involved we'll be laughing!

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5745 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 6:47:15 AM
@5cats: Agreed, it's not just about gold, it's not like we're in China or anything.

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Vimto
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2675 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 5:44:19 AM
We did pretty well, though props to Hungary.

MrRugby
Male, 30-39, Europe
 38 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 5:31:26 AM
Bear in mind that funding, accessibility to sporting facilities and a decent talent spotting system is required. It is worth noting that in 1996 Britain only won one Gold Medal. Since then there has been a significant increase in funding. Furthermore, a singnificant proportion of Britain's medal winners were privately educated, suggesting, in Britain anyway, that wealth of the individual plays a big part.

Scuzoid
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1270 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 11:11:17 PM
Wasn't this also the first olympics ever to restrict the number of competitor's allowed in final competition, regardless of qualification score, to a set number based on the country you're representing? Pretty sure there was an american gymnastics favorite who wasn't allowed to make it to final competition just because two of her teammates did slightly better, even though she did better than the vast majority of the remaining finalists.

darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 9:21:05 PM
per capita only works if you send athletes per capita as well.

lest we forget that GB had the most athletes at this year's olympics

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26600 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 9:11:10 PM
Canada does OK with "per capita" counting of total medals!
It's not "only" about the Gold Medals, people!

sutra46
Female, 40-49, Asia
 2482 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 8:47:20 PM
@thelonios right you are. India has. O funding for sports or even training venues for athletes. Most competitors hold full time jobs.
Corporate sponsorship for sports is mainly for Cricket then tennis then soccer.
Am hoping that private sponsorship will give us a chance in future. It takes a few years to get the system established though.
Till then cricket it is

sutra46
Female, 40-49, Asia
 2482 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 8:40:41 PM
Neither my birth country nor my domicile has gold.

Definitely for a lack of trying.

emmettyville
Female, 40-49, Australia
 4275 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 8:34:33 PM
woot! it's all down to sprit i reakon, and we have heaps. If you are in the olympics and from here, it's because you want to be and have to pay for it yourself usually and have self motivation, not because you have been trained by the f ucking state since you were 5...

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 872 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 8:24:44 PM
@thelonious
But the Chinese grabbed a bunch as did the Russians, India is new to this sort of thing but I'll guarantee that the will get better when they set their minds to winning Olympic gold. Or when cricket is made an Olympic sport.

thelonious
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3246 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 8:05:59 PM
@An-egg There is no data to support that larger countries always take the most medals. Or else China and India would be kicking everybody's arse every single Olympic games. Greatness in a specific contest can arise from a small set of participants. That's what the Olympic spirit is about. That and doping.

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 872 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 7:53:44 PM
@cobrakiller smaller populations have fewer people, that's why they are smaller populations. Therefore they have fewer chances of winning medals (because they have fewer people to compete) and no, there wasn't " a equivalent amount of people from each country were in the olympics based on their population" had there been this would be unnecessary. This is a reflection of how each nation did per head of the population. The GDP tab is quite interesting too.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 15059 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 7:47:23 PM
Yay, Grenada. Ever since Reagan kicked that @$$hole commie dictator Maurice Bishop out of power, they've done pretty well for themselves.

That being said, if this list were weighted according to the size of the team vs. the population of the country, it would look quite different. For instance, the population of the US is nearly 3,000 times that of Grenada, but I don't think our Olympic team was 3,000 times bigger than theirs.

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 872 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 7:30:17 PM
I've been checking similar lists: Well done the kiwis. And the Brits!

thelonious
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3246 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 7:00:58 PM
I think a study showed that countries that have government sponsored training and recruiting programs for Olympic programs do very well. Thing is, I can't figure out why that would be. So I'm just going to start chanting "U.S.A.!!" after I post this for my own personal enjoyment.

cobrakiller
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 6952 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 6:06:49 PM
Its actually an unfair way to list it. This is purposely made to look better for smaller populations. It isnt like there is a equivalent amount of people from each country were in the olympics based on their population.

Also, it would be a much better showing if you based a chart not on the population of a particular country, but of the ammount of applicants they had representing them in the games.

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