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The Truth About Assault Weapons

Hits: 6323 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: pacojohnson
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KAKABAKA
Male, 30-39, Western US
 403 Posts
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:31:16 AM
im from san jose ca.

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 872 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 9:53:48 AM
So what would this fall under?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Monday, August 13, 2012 6:53:43 AM
AR-15's are top notch target rifles nice try jamie76.

En-bloc clips are fun!! Only thing I can think of that uses them is the M1 Garand I own one.....

After the last round it ejects the clip too and make a lovely PIIINNNGG! noise.

zazuch
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 288 Posts
Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:03:41 PM
I did my senior project on the assault weapon ban and he pretty much showed exactly what i did. Most of the bans that was banned with that law where cosmetic changes and did NOTHING to stop what they where trying to prevent. I made a 10-22 rifle into a illegal assault rifle under this law. Most of what they called assault weapon characteristics were cosmetic changes.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26337 Posts
Sunday, August 12, 2012 9:33:04 AM
@MeGrendel: OldOllie-"Guns are bad, m'kay?"
@OldOllie is being sarcastic, eh?

@Squirlz4: I can explain! It's a Siamese! lolz! They're... odd.

MrLill
Male, 18-29, Western US
 362 Posts
Sunday, August 12, 2012 7:18:48 AM
I fully support the 2nd amendment. I also don't blame devices for human error.

wiscesq
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 97 Posts
Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:35:25 AM
REALLY OLD. The "recent" Stockton Massacre he refers to happened in 1989.

IrishJesus
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 484 Posts
Sunday, August 12, 2012 4:34:22 AM
The AA-12 is such a goofy looking shotgun. Give me a SPAS-12!

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:03:03 PM
Cool. I've learned a lot. Now I just need someone to explain this.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 8:47:57 PM
OldOllie-"Guns are bad, m'kay?"

Sorry, incorrect. People who believe this are willfully ignorant.

Guns are neither 'good' nor 'bad', as they are inanimate objects. They are just fabricated devices of metal, plastic and various other materials and chemicals.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26337 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:32:11 PM
Pew! Pew! Pew!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26337 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:19:11 PM
I concur: "Assault Rifle" is a weapon capable of full automatic fire. Unlike a "machine gun" is has a clip, not a chain feed for the bullets. (Machine guns can have clips too, that gets into the territory of "Automatic Rifles")

@MeGrendel is right as well: anything that POTENTIALLY may harm someone is "an assault weapon" eh? A weapon with which one could be assaulted...



I just love that gif!!

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14830 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:06:09 PM
People who don't already know this are willfully ignorant. They don't want to be confused by facts that conflict with their preconceived uninformed opinions.

"Guns are bad, m'kay?"

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:42:43 PM
@MeGrendel: No worries - just wanted to make sure everyone knew I wasn't trying to portray myself as an expert.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10317 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:35:38 PM
On top of which contrary to popular belief "headshots" are NOT 100% fatal (at least with small caliber weapons).

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10317 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:34:07 PM
the AR-15 will mow down several people quickly but I only again, need to stop one person.


Actually that depends on where you hit. If you hit an artery then yes they fall down from rapid blood loss. Bullets do not have the momentum necessary to stop a charging target in their tracks. Interestingly enough only 1/20 victims of gun injuries die. Most even go on to retain ALL of their limbs. Which is why historically, since the advent of gunpowder at least, injuries have always dwarfed deaths in almost every battle.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10317 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:17:49 PM
handgun is much better suited for close quarters.


Here's an "assault weapon" that's effective in close range with proper ammunition:


Called the Atchisson Assault Shotgun, 12 gauge.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:03:06 PM
HumanAction-"I did properly express my view as an opinion and not as fact when I stated "I don't think"."

Yes you did. I was just letting you know there is a definition, not being confrontational.

'Assault weapon', on the other hand, is opened to interpretation.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:49:09 PM
@MeGrendel: Actually, 'Assault rifle' has a very strict definition: "A fully automatic weapon that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine."

Fair enough - I did not know this. I did properly express my view as an opinion and not as fact when I stated "I don't think". This phrase declares the following statement to be an opinion and not fact.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:33:51 PM
jamie76-"to me the term Assault rifle refers to any weapon that is not meant for defensive...yadda yadda yadda."

Well, what it means to YOU is irrelevant. There is a strict definition as to what an Assault Rifle is, and your opinion has no bearing on it.

jamie76-"it is too large to use for home protection."

Again, your opinion is irrelevant. Some people think it's too small, some think it's just right.

jamie76-"AR-15s are designed to kill people."

No, AR-15s are designed to throw a 1.9 ounce, .224" diameter bit of metal 2,000 feet downrange at 3,200 feet per second as accurately as possible. Nothing more. What an individual chooses to put in path of that bit of metal is entirely up to the individual.

scheckydamon
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 427 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:55:18 PM
You can have my wife's weaponised dildo when you can pry it from her cold, dead Va-JJ.
You'll also have to get past her 9mm PoopTube Shooter. Her farts are mean!

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2350 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:34:25 PM
to me the term Assault rifle refers to any weapon that is not meant for defensive purpose but is clearly designed for offensive capability and designed to inflict maximum damage on humans and nothing else.

an AR-15 may be semi-auto but it is designed to kill humans, kill lots of humans. it is not suited for hunting in the least and as a hunter, I would NEVER considered using this weapon for that purpose.

it is too large to use for home protection. A handgun is much better suited for close quarters.

also, I do not need a AR-15 to stop someone else with a gun, even if they have an AR-15. WHy? because I am trying to stop ONE person.

the AR-15 will mow down several people quickly but I only again, need to stop one person. The handgun would be fine and I have actually take PC832 Fire Arm Control classes over the years and trust me, in the right hands, the handgun will be the weapon of choice for protection.

AR-15s are designed to kill people

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4777 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:07:40 PM
HumanAction-"As for "assault rifles", I don't think they have a set definition for them."

Actually, 'Assault rifle' has a very strict definition: "A fully automatic weapon that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine."

The term the media LOVE to use is 'Assault WEAPON', which has not set definition other than it has the cosmetic appearance of an assault rifle.

See, this is a knife:



And this is an ASSAULT Weapon (knife):


HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:47:17 AM
As for "assault rifles", I don't think they have a set definition for them. I know most of the people I talk to consider them to be burst or fully-automatic weapons.

A burst weapon is where one trigger pull results in a set number (greater than 1) of rounds being expelled. The M-16 has a 3-round burst mode where every trigger pull results in 3 rounds being fired.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:44:52 AM
@markust123: Well, this is where it gets interesting and confusing. In general, you can think of a magazine as the tool used to provide rounds to the firearm. A clip is used to provide rounds to the magazine.

The purpose of any clip is to reduce the amount of time it takes to reload the magazine. However, in most cases, you can directly load the rounds into the magazine without a clip - it just takes longer.

That being said, there are two types of clips: stripper clips and en-bloc clips. Stripper clips are used to quickly dump rounds into a magazine. For instance, an AR-15 magazine typically holds 30 rounds, which take awhile to load. You can use 3 strippers of ten to very quickly load the magazine. En-bloc clips are much rarer and different - they stay in the magazine instead of dumping the rounds in. I know the M1 does this, but I can't think of any others.

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