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Chick Fil-A Pro-Gay Protesters Mock Anti-Gay Man

Hits: 6996 | Rating: (2.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Andrew155
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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:51:02 PM
@jamie76 I've been to a few gay oriented protests in Seattle and DC. They were all really peaceful. This conveniently edited video makes me wonder are these guys assh*les or were they stirred up into this frenzy by a guy spewing ugly hate through misinterpretations of the bible? Doesn't excuse the jerks but I would like to see the beginning of the video. This was shot by a video camera not an phone. And it was taken by a person who runs a far right blog. We are not being told the whole story.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:41:22 PM
"What I am saying is that the CEO said he doesn't support gay marriage and then someone didn't like that then started digging until they found more dirt on him."

I follow a gay news blog that has been reporting quite a while on the large donations that Chick-Fil-A gives to anti-gay hate groups. I and many other gay people had given up their delicious sandwiches long before the CEO opened his mouth.

jamie76
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2334 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:37:36 PM
I am all for gay rights...but not their right to be complete aholes and treat others like that.

I do believe that anyone that is anti-gay is a bigot. there is no wa around that.

and as long as they do not try to advocate their beliefs into law, I have no problem with them feeling whatever way they want.

for gay people to get that ugly and act like the closed minded aholes that are opressing them is shameful.

this issue has spun right into crazyland.

I think gays need to take a page out of MLK's playbook on protesting...

scttydsntknw
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 30 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:31:08 PM
@holygod The CEO himself does not decide who draws from the charity, they fund a charity that supports christian groups now some of them do not support marriage equality, but I bet you no ones is focusing on the other groups that the charity funds....I am not saying just because the company funds groups that help needy families and run soup kitchens that it's okay that the anti-gay groups exists. What I am saying is that the CEO said he doesn't support gay marriage and then someone didn't like that then started digging until they found more dirt on him.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:19:10 PM
@LillianDulci & HolyGod: Would it not then be wiser to be upset with our government for allowing itself to be bought? Why should we attack this man for abusing the system rather than attack those allowing the system to be abused?

smaus
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 679 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:18:37 PM
I shall never eat at Chick-fil-A again, then again I don't eat fast food, period.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4819 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:07:33 PM
WheresMyGoat

"He can believe anything he wants without everyone persecuting him, disallowing his restaurants to be built in new locations, etc"

I can't believe how much I am hearing that. Do you people even actually understand the issue? It has become a lighting rod because of what he said, but the problem is not what he said. The problem is what he does with chick-fil-a money. He funnels a portion of it into groups that lobby and fight to alter legislation that decides your rights. So you give money to chick-fil-a, they take some of it and give it to an organization that pays a lobbyist to get politicians to write legislation barring your rights.

I guess if a chicken sandwich is worth it to you, you don't deserve equal rights.

LillianDulci
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2696 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 12:02:28 PM
"Neither of you let your personal beliefs be used to disciminate against the other "

That's not true though. Gay people aren't trying to take away the rights of straight people. But the CEO of Chick-Fil-A is trying to restrict the rights of gay people, by donating some of his company's money to anti-gay organizations.

Ripper398
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1318 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:47:49 AM
drat 'em all.. not literally though. You'll get aids. Bwahahaha.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:44:49 AM
@markust123: Ah, fair enough. I thought you were supporting their actions at first. I agree that we should ask questions when presented with such obvious propaganda.

That being said, I think it is ultimately unwise to use the actions of one intolerant group to justify the actions of another. This logic will only lead us into a spiral.

WheresMyGoat
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 36 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:43:09 AM
I'm gay, but I'd still eat at Chic-fil-a if we had any around here. The amount of attention they've received over the CEO's beliefs is ludicrous. He can believe anything he wants without everyone persecuting him, disallowing his restaurants to be built in new locations, etc. Makes me ashamed to see gay people being so intolerant of others beliefs.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:33:52 AM
"Perhaps he committed no actions. I've seen the video and nothing more about it; therefore, my interpretations are limited to the video. I do not assume to know more than is shown, nor am I able to extrapolate what isn't there."

That is my point. Why jump to conclusions when you only have half the story? That is exactly what these heavily edited, heavily partisan, videos from both sides are designed to do. People should be especially suspicious of ones like this that are put out by an organization.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:25:09 AM
@markust123: "Like I mentioned earlier his actions were conveniently left out of the video."

Perhaps he committed no actions. I've seen the video and nothing more about it; therefore, my interpretations are limited to the video. I do not assume to know more than is shown, nor am I able to extrapolate what isn't there.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:20:57 AM
"More importantly, what did this man attacked in the video do?"

That is the question. What did the man attacked in the video do to deserve the wrath of these dumb*sses? Like I mentioned earlier his actions were conveniently left out of the video. What did the man do? Or not do (if he is innocent)?

This is a prime example of sensationalism and how we are led to conclusions by heavily edited videos. People need to open their eyes to the lies we are fed every day and quit being led around like sheep.

anarchsoul
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 590 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:14:05 AM
The gays are becoming just as bad as Westboro, IMO.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:12:52 AM
@woomanfoo: Sorry to gang up on you here; I know it is a pain answering multiple people at a time.

"My problem is that they are using their beliefs to belittle the rights of those they disagree with"

How so? What has Chick-Fil-A done to limit the rights of others? More importantly, what did this man attacked in the video do?

"Christian beliefs are the basis for laws that deny rights to those who disagree."

Should you not then be more upset with your government, instead of the individual attacked in this video? The video clearly showed many people verbally assaulting this man for his beliefs, and did not show him attacking them for their beliefs.


MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4178 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:07:41 AM
woomanfoo-"beliefs are the basis for laws that deny rights to those who disagree."

Actually, it's EVERYONE's beliefs that are the basis for laws that deny rights to those who disagree, and those beliefs evolve over time.

I'm sure there's some people who think they have the right to murder anyone they don't like, and it's everyone else's beliefs that are the basis for laws that deny them that. Should be respect his belief, too? (I know, absurd example, but correct on the logic angle.)

The changing of laws is never a peaceful process.

woomanfoo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 540 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 11:01:09 AM
@HumanAction: It isn't their BELIEFS that I have an issue with. I disagree with them, sure. I think it's insensitive and definitely against the very religion they subscribe to, but it's their right to believe what they want. My problem is that they are using their beliefs to belittle the rights of those they disagree with. It isn't just disagreeing anymore. Christian beliefs are the basis for laws that deny rights to those who disagree.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4178 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:56:14 AM
woomanfoo-"The only way to fight intolerance is to refuse to tolerate it."

Fine, but what you said sounded like the only way to fight intolerance is to demonstrate intolerance.

There are other ways to fight and negate intolerance. Some work, some don't. But there will always be some level of intolerance (after all, idiots will always be amongst us). The trick is to make in ineffective.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:55:53 AM
@woomanfoo: Fair enough - but you focus on the wrong group. For instance, I am a white male. It does me no harm for any other group to hate males, or to hate whites. Why then should I attack them?

You don't agree with Chick-Fil-As CEOs beliefs and he does not agree with yours. How is it that you two are so different then? Neither of you let your personal beliefs be used to disciminate against the other - so why start something with him?

Instead, you are projecting you anger about governmental policies towards one business or one group and using them as the scapegoats. Your intolerance of their beliefs is just as intolerant as their intolerance of your beliefs. Neither should be used as a means to discriminate against the other, nor should they be used as a means to attack the other.

woomanfoo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 540 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:52:14 AM
Look everyone, you'll have to look at what I wrote and use a little abstract thought. I did not mean that literally. Forgive me.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4178 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:49:30 AM
patchouly-"Yes. That is what I'm saying."

Then you're a hypocrit and an idiot.

patchouly-"What difference does it make to you, if a gay man wants to get married?"

It doesn't, nor do I care. But the hypocrisy is amazing, and I enjoy pointing out the difference between what you demand and what you demonstrate.

Your hypocrisy is WHY no one cares.

patchouly-"Sorry MeGrendel, it is your group that needs to learn tolerance."

For one thing, you have no idea what my 'group' is (not that I even have one). And you are not going to receive 'tolerance' until you practice it. The Chick-fil-a debacle made your movement look like idiots.

woomanfoo-"intolerance towards intolerance is not intolerant."

Dumbass statement of the day.

woomanfoo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 540 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:45:37 AM
HumanAction, I realize that it sounded silly, what I meant was that if you continue to tolerate intolerance, it will keep occurring. The only way to fight intolerance is to refuse to tolerate it.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:42:18 AM
@woomanfoo: "People need to realize that intolerance towards intolerance is not intolerant."

Yes it is. You've defined it as intolerance here, so it is intolerance. That's a very silly statement.

@patchouly & BoredFrank: The err of your logic creates a circle of hate. If Group B uses Group A's hateful actions to justify their own hateful actions, then we create a circle. Your logic demands never-ending hate.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, August 07, 2012 10:40:20 AM
"Sorry, but if the hatred and evil that is spewed by these so called "Christians" is met with hate, how can that be blamed?"

Exactly. Certain "Christians" are asking for hate by spewing bigotry and hatred and then play the victim once they receive a response.

What we don't see is what caused this group to behave so horribly. Was the guy with the bible preaching bigotry or was he being peaceful? I'm thinking bigotry since his actions were conveniently left out of the video.

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