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I'm Not Comparing Black People And Gays [Pic]

Hits: 13332 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 606 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:16:47 PM
@5Cats: And while we're talking about words you don't understand, let's talk about your "strawman (sic.)".

A "straw man" argument (two words) is a fallacy where you misrepresent your opponent's viewpoint and present it as an easily falsifiable claim instead of what they really mean.

You quote something I say represents your views, and you call it a straw man. Then afterwards you assert that the statement is true! How exactly am I misrepresenting your viewpoint, if you assert that what I described as your viewpoint is true?!?

So, that is not a straw man at all, merely the absurdity of your claims laid bare for everyone to see.

Need I mention that you mangled the "no true Scotsman" fallacy as well?

Your "translation" bit is absurd too, because no group rose totally on their own.

In conclusion, yeah, I'm sure the KKK are *huge* Obama supporters. *snerk*

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 606 Posts
Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:01:57 PM
5Cats: "Vast majority of KKK members are Democrats."

Prove it. And I'm not talking about historical numbers (let's say pre-2000), but present day numbers.

Also, I notice you have yet to back up one damn thing I asked you to with facts. All you have given are assertions, NOT facts.

I also recommend you learn the meaning of the phrase "ad hominem" if you're going to sling it around so much. An ad hominem isn't simply insulting someone, it's saying that they're wrong *because* they're "X", where "X" is something seen by some as bad (e.g. Nazi).

I'm not saying that you're wrong because you're nuts, I'm saying that what you're saying is nuts, therefore you're wrong. That's not an ad hominem.

While you're at the dictionary, look up "slander" too. I can't slander anyone when writing something; that would be libel instead.

womanusa90
Female, 60-69, Europe
 20 Posts
Saturday, August 04, 2012 6:29:14 PM
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26171 Posts
Saturday, August 04, 2012 7:49:43 AM
@5cats All these people keep saying it's pointless to argue with you and then they argue with you.

I know @RytWing! Funny isn't it?

They say "it's pointless" because they know they have NO case!

They inevitably "ad hominem" it's virtually guarenteed.

They then proclaim victory! Usually by defeating a "paper tiger" which has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

Speaking of which: "Change the topic" is their #2 arguement method... right out of Sol Alinsky!

RytWing
Male, 30-39, Western US
 316 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:51:10 PM
The only thing this picture proves is that these black people love chicken. I see nothing anti towards anyone or anything in this picture.
Try optimism sometime.

RytWing
Male, 30-39, Western US
 316 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:25:53 PM
@5cats

All these people keep saying it's pointless to argue with you and then they argue with you. A show of inteligence maybe? In any case they are right. You can't argue with the truth.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26171 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:55:02 PM
WHY is that "No True Scotsman" you may ask?

BEcause he essentially SPELLS OUT the "White Man's Burden" while claiming it doesn't exist. Like the Scotsman who wears underpants doesn't exist. Even if he does.

And both Jackson and Sharpton have made their CAREERS demanding "White Man's Burden". BOTH are prominent Democrats, ffs! There's 100 more, of various colours, where those two came from!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26171 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:51:10 PM
Strawman: I love how you try to claim that both blacks *and* the KKK are in the pocket of the Democrats.

This is a fact. He never refutes or disputes it AS FACT but slanderously suggests I'm wrong.

Ad Hominem: "You're having an argument with someone who exists only in your head."
"your own ignorant bias."
"you're full of crap here."

No True Scotsman: "rather than face the reality that some people don't "play fair" and thus rules and regulations have to be made to deal with bigots."

Translation: Negros (or WHOMEVER) need white folks help! And taxpayers money! Because they cannot rise up all by themselves!
Like the Jews in America did.
Or the Irish.
Or the Germans.
Or the Chinese.
Or the Poles.
Or the Japanese.
Or the Italians...

NOPE! It's IMPOSSIBLE for a "minority" to do well without "special" laws! And taxpayer money.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 2:04:11 PM
If anything you're engaging in red herrings with all your Obama media nonsense.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 2:01:36 PM
@5cats: HiEv at no point engaged in ad hominem, and asking you to provide examples of liberals saying things you claim they say isn't strawmen. I also don't know where you're getting no true scotsman, he's done nothing of the sort except refute your claim that most liberals are racist and hateful.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26171 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 1:28:39 PM
@HiEv: Vast majority of KKK members are Democrats.
Blacks vote mostly Democrat
Jews vote mostly Democrat

Facts, deal with them.
Call out all the strawmen and ad hominums you like, and the "No True Scotsman" too! I have facts while you have rhetoric.

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 606 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 12:17:23 PM
@5Cats: Addendum - I love how you try to claim that both blacks *and* the KKK are in the pocket of the Democrats.

Seriously, do you realize how inconsistent your "logic" is?

Also, nobody asked you, "to name ONE Political leader who supports 'White Man's Burden'". You're having an argument with someone who exists only in your head.

I asked you to name a liberal who literally said, "Because Black people aren't smart enough to know what's good for them," as you claimed all liberals say. That's not "white man's burden", that's just racism. You obviously can't name one, so you shift the argument in a hope of obscuring the fact that you're full of crap here.

You've asserted so many things here that have no basis in reality, they just exist in your head, so it's probably pointless to argue with you.

But seriously, this has been 100% fail on your part.

HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 606 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 12:00:23 PM
@5Cats: I see you didn't bother to support your assertion about what "any liberal" would say. It's unsupportable.

And yes, David Duke *was* a Democrat, but that doesn't change the fact that he is *currently* a Republican, and the only election he won was as a Republican. Democrats wouldn't elect him, Republicans did, however.

And no, the vast majority liberals and democrats don't believe in "inferior races", they believe that racists exist and that they need to be dealt with. Your attempt to turn realism into racism further demonstrates your own ignorant bias.

The truth obviously hurts you, because you'd rather resort to calling a whole group racist to suit your beliefs, rather than face the reality that some people don't "play fair" and thus rules and regulations have to be made to deal with bigots.

Your turning preventing racism into a form of racism is an argument absent of logic.

furrything
Male, 50-59, Europe
 901 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:58:19 AM
Ha ha ha! Darkies!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26171 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:52:41 AM
Part 2: Hypocricy:
Didn't the Dems (and the Media) try to impeach Reagan for "illegal arms shipments"? Now Obama has done it, I'm sure they'll be ALL OVER that story... NOT!

Isn't the Dems opposed to polygamy? BUT no one is branding them "Anti-Islamic" for that, are they now?
Funny how ONE religion is OK with being so anti-gay they LEGALLY MURDER THEM while another religion is visciously attacked for supporting tradition.
Funny, eh?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26171 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:48:28 AM
@patchy: The MSM, at the behest of the Democrats, are using this "controversy" to distract from Obama's abysmal record, attack religion (and Romney's Mormonism indirectly) and generally stir poo up.

The actual political orientation of Mr Cathy isn't important! All that matters is: he refuses to toe the homosexualist line and MUST be demonized!

Why this gets political is: Blacks have been told for decades to obey the Democrats, but NOW the Dems are supporting things the average Black person does NOT support! Watching the MSM "spin spin spin" trying to resolve this paradox is amusing! BUT I'd rather they told the truth about... anything actually!

Did you know America IS INDEED supplying arms to Syrian Rebels in secret? No? The MSM has been so busy with Chick-Fil-A they don't have time for actual NEWS!

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6464 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:22:10 AM
That's not a Chik-fil-A. It's a church urging their members (perhaps even paying them) to support gay hate. Proof there is no God.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 10:06:00 AM
@5cats: I don't watch American news, but has the president of Chick-Fil-A been criticized for being republican? Does he hold public office somewhere? The only way this is political is when his company endorses the opposition to same-sex marriage bills, which isn't the topic at hand.

UDUMASS
Male, 30-39, Canada
 61 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:47:30 AM
With all these pro-queer posts at IAB, I have to wonder how many fudge-packer mods work there...

RevWubby
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 64 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:37:32 AM
I see a lot similarities here...

"Yes, it IS the same dratING thing"


CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 5258 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:15:02 AM
Well actually, you are comparing but, I think more people may recognize their err if the term "civil rights" had been used instead of "gay rights."
Gender indiscriminate marriage is the civil right issue of our generation.

I see now people are going to have one-hell-of-a-time if ever we do make contact with another intelligently populated planet. More so, whenever someone creates an AI.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26171 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 9:02:07 AM
@patchy: HOW in ANY WAY is this MSM-manufactured "Chick-Fil-A Scandel" NOT PARTISAN?

Simply pointing out that the Partisan line is broken by Blacks (against the wishes of their white masters: Democrats) is a reaction TO excessive Partisanship!

Someone asked me to name ONE Political leader who supports "White Man's Burden": I'll name two!
Jessie Jackson Sr.
Al Sharpton

NEXT!

heytonashcat
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 81 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:28:12 AM
This picture looks like it was taken long before anyone knew or cared about what chic-fil-a did with it's money.

slightlys
Male, 18-29, Western US
 89 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 8:04:09 AM
Where is the Watermelon?

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Friday, August 03, 2012 6:53:01 AM
You can always count on 5cats to introduce partisan politics where there is no need for it. Broken record is broken.

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