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Florida Cops Taser A Guy For Not Showing ID

Hits: 7458 | Rating: (2.4) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: madest
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Male, 30-39, Western US
 42 Posts
Monday, July 23, 2012 2:55:58 PM
The video recorder sounds like "Roberta" on "The Cleveland Show"

Male, 18-29, Canada
 54 Posts
Thursday, July 19, 2012 2:59:49 PM
Even if the police were in the wrong (though I think not), The guy should have just shown his I.D. and things would have been a lot less complicated.The woman yelling "Get your managers" is just making the situation more stressful for nothing. Oh well, poo like that happens... Not here in Canada though. :)

Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10253 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:35:08 PM
I know! The cops do something when you break the law. THE HORROR!

Male, 18-29, Europe
 281 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:01:06 AM
Wow, America is a really, really drated up place.

Male, 18-29, Europe
 281 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:53:27 AM
Some one cal the Poli... oh... poo.

Male, 30-39, Canada
 14 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:45:17 AM
Why does the woman recording believe that screaming "get your supervisor" will compel the officers to stop what they're doing and get a manager? This isn't Starbucks.

Male, 50-59, Canada
 29146 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 5:48:19 AM
He was tazed for resisting arrest.

100% Correct @Rick_S! Something that's been overlooked by a lot of us (including me!) here.

YES 24 states currently have "stop and identify" statutes. Guess what... Florida is one of them.

@AltairWolfe: Welcome to IAB! I think this pretty much settles the issue, well for me it does!
In THIS situation: cops = good
Their patience with these two clowns was remarkable!

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2562 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:46:35 AM
He took those tazers like a champ

Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 2752 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:14:45 AM
He's resisting and they're both antagonizing the cops.

Male, 30-39, Western US
 928 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:08:23 AM
@maddux32, where to begin? Not having an ID is not probable cause. Smelling weed, seeing a shape of a gun in their pocket, APB out on someone that fits your description is probable-cause. Also, you cannot get arrested for not having an ID. There has to be a crime. Probable-cause for what?

In a vacuum, no, you cannot get arrested for refusing to show your ID, or not having your ID. I'm not arguing this further. You all can do what you want. Just some advice from an actual practicing attorney.

Show your ID. Trust me.

Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 12 Posts
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:05:38 AM
I have no problem with any of the actions of the officers in this video.

Male, 18-29, Southern US
 198 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:53:36 PM
I do not like the actions in this video by the non police. But, the police state that we have became has led to videos that are smart like the ones earlier posted to IAB. Then, there are crap like this... Because people are trying so hard to sh*t on police. For due cause. "Protect and Serve" has been abandoned. I feel it's a 50/50 ratio of good cop/bad cop... That's 50% wrong.

Female, 18-29, Western US
 108 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:06:59 PM
this just aggravated the hell out of me. and the fact that some people are still defending the man "not" resisting arrest. just drives me crazy. welcome to the decay of society people.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 6 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:06:40 PM
I dont know about the laws in florida but in california the cops were in the right. he committed an infraction which gives the officers the right to issue him a citation. the officers cannot issue a citation if he refuses to identify himself. he could tell them his name, but he could lie and give him a different name which given the situation an ID is what is sufficient to properly identify himself. he did not give them the id so he is delaying the officer in his lawful duties to issue the citation, which is now a misdemeanor. there is active resistance and passive resistance. Passive would be laying there and doing nothing. active would be clenching your body and pulling away. The law gives the officer the right to submit him to "Pain compliance" to submit to the arrest as he is actively resisting. the taser worked in that manner is classified as pain compliance. the officer could have deescalated the incident and he sucks with his words, but what he did was lawful in calif

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 20 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:14:09 PM
final note, yes, the person who got zapped should have just shown his id, but I doubt the police were involved unless there was potential check fraud being reported by the amscot. no, the person involved didn't have to show id unless the cop could tell him what he was being charged with. (if there was fraud reported by amscot, the cop would have been much more assertive.) the zapped has a fantastic case against the police department, but as that he rode up on a huffy, i doubt he can afford legal retention. i understand the gun carry situation on his behalf, but why didn't the wife/gf leave her's at home? i've watched this video way too many times and i can't tell if it a case of cop baiting or a failed attempt to screw amscot in some way.

clarification on on the compliance thing.. the police expect you to just give in to whatever they say, so if anyone refuses, that is immediate "potential criminal" behavior. gotta love that catch 22.

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 20 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:50:56 PM
ped = pedestrian. had to save characters.

316.130 A ped shall obey the instructions of any traffic control device applicable to the pedestrian unless otherwise directed by a police officer.ped shall be subject to traffic control signals at intersections as provided in s. 316.075, but at all other places peds shall be accorded the privileges and be subject to the restrictions in this chapter.Where sidewalks are provided, no ped shall walk along and upon the portion of a roadway paved for vehicular traffic.Between adjacent intersections at which traffic control signals are in operation, peds shall not cross at any place except in a marked crosswalk.No ped shall, except in a marked crosswalk, cross at any other place than by a route at right angles to the curb or by the shortest route to the opposite curb.Peds shall move upon the right half of crosswalks.No ped shall cross a roadway intersection diagonally unless authorized by official traffic control devices

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 20 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:39:50 PM
GIVE THEM YOUR ID. it is easier to press charges for false imprisonment if you comply implicitly. this is what the cops are betting on. most people just do whatever they are asked, and anyone who deviates from that behavior "must be hiding something". i live in the state of pill mills and meth labs. the cops are a little bit on edge. i can't blame them. no, i am not a police officer, nor even an employee of the state government. just a lowly contractor who overhears a lot. tampa, not orlando. in florida, i can kill someone for making a vague threat, but the police can arrest you for crossing a crosswalk at anything other than a 90 degree angle. meaning no cutting corners. once that actual crime has been committed in front of a police officer, he can in fact demand your identification. as that they two in question were cashing checks, they had photo id's, it was the ignorance of the police officer as to the statute.

statute in next post. (sorry it's old, i'm drunk.)

Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 20 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:25:54 PM
apparently i can't post links. this happened in orlando. google can bring up the pages. welcome to florida. how is it legal for me to shoot a man in the face for speaking to me in a manner i deem threatening, (anywhere) and get away with it, while someone charged with "jaywalking" deserves to be assaulted repeatedly because of an overzealous cop? despite what a lot of people say, it is NOT legal for any law enforcement officer to ask you for your identification arbitrarily. they MAY ask you for your name but you are not obligated to give your full name. when an officer is on location where "something might be happening" they are on as high alert as military personnel in a war zone. if you find yourself in this situation, just give your first name, not your last. that gives the officers a means to address you and complies with the request. be as compliant as possible, but plead the 5th to anything other than your first name. if they ARE charging you, GIVE THEM YOUR I

Male, 30-39, Western US
 4381 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:13:37 PM
Most cops are egomaniacs, and way too fast to tase. Tasers are considered "less lethal" NOT "non lethal". The cop may have had the right to ID this guy, but it is pretty obvious that there was no good reason to. Regardless...this guy earned a tase by resisting a simple request.

Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 564 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:39:08 PM
Ignorant ass cops. drat all cops. The only good cop is an ex-cop.

Female, 40-49, Southern US
 911 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:49:51 PM
They don't pay cops enough to deal with this bull crap.

Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 75 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:43:53 PM
It's one thing when you stand up to cops and get a cop to go on a power trip and use unlawful force. But in the video, the cop does state the man did cross the street not at a crosswalk, while not really enforced 99% of the time, is still a violation of traffic laws, so the cop was justified in asking for his ID in this situation. I dislike cops just as much as anyone but if you break the law, you must accept the consequences, even if the crime is a misdemeanor.

Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2303 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:27:04 PM
drat the police, just drat this police state

Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 20 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:20:50 PM
I hate when people think EVERYTHING is in the Constitution. This is a state issue and YES 24 states currently have "stop and identify" statutes. Guess what... Florida is one of them. Lesson is this. If you're going to be an ass, and there is a time to be an ass when you really ARE having your civil liberties challenged, but if you suspect you're going to do it then know the laws of your state. Otherwise, expect to get arrested and charged.

Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 348 Posts
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 4:16:18 PM
HI-haole: Maybe you should comprehend what you read before posting a reply. paperduck said "riding a bike require you to comply to traffic laws" (and he's right) and when caught comitting a crime you are required to provide I.D.

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