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 HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 384 Posts
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Monday, July 16, 2012 12:23:21 AM
@MacGuffin: If Neil deGrasse Tyson is a "blowhard", as you put it, then the world needs more "blowhards" like him. He speaks out about how the US has forgotten what has made it great, its education, science, and creativity.
You say he, "doesn't appear to do anything all that useful himself", but that only demonstrates how little know of what he has done. For example, did you know that he has testified before the Senate's on the importance of education and science? There's more too, look it up.
You attempt to diminish what he's said by saying he's, "Hardly finding the cure for cancer", but by that absurdly high standard you diminish almost all tasks, don't you? What he's pushing for is the kind of educational and monetary support from the government that could bring about that cure for cancer, so it's practically the next best thing!
I don't know who pissed in your cereal, but you're taking it out on the wrong man. |
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 Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
3533 Posts
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Sunday, July 15, 2012 8:45:29 PM
MacGuffin - sorry for the late response. Yes, the DeGrassi comment was for you. But: and actually going out of your way to seek attention by constantly publishing ever minutiae of your life on Twitter
What is there about this that separates him from any of the other celebrities that anybody 'follows?' I expect a full report from you by Monday. |
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 Omniq
Male, 18-29, Europe
8 Posts
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Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:08:02 AM
@MacGuffin
What you're doing isn't really arguing with someone, it's more trying to make the post with the mosts words in the least amount of time. (All of which are not based on facts, but more on your opinion and information you pull out of thin air.)
It's fine if you want to discuss something like this, but what you're doing is more like a "NANANA IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG NANANANA" |
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 MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 3:06:36 PM
@Idlerlee2:
Wikipedia's great, isn't it? You forgot to mention: "2000 Sexiest Astrophysicist Alive, People Magazine", though. Please, NDT - just piss off back to your day job boring schoolkids. I've a feeling they couldn't stand him at NASA, and that's why he no longer works there but is in a dead-end job running a planetarium. |
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 Zuriel
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
412 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:43:30 PM
@MacGuffin
..stay small. |
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Idlerlee2
Male, 18-29, Europe
135 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:18:05 PM
Since i cant be bothered to type it myself, here is some copypaste from wikipedia:
Awards
2001 Medal of Excellence, Columbia University, New York City
2004 NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal
2007 Klopsteg Memorial Award winner
2009 Douglas S. Morrow Public Outreach Award from the Space Foundation for significant contributions to public awareness of space programs.[10]
2009 Isaac Asimov award from the American Humanist Association [44]
Honors
2001 asteroid named: 13123 Tyson, renamed from Asteroid 1994KA by the International Astronomical Union
2001 The Tech 100, voted by editors of Crain's Magazine to be among the 100 most influential technology leaders in New York
2004 Fifty Most Important African-Americans in Research Science[46]
2007 Harvard 100: Most Influential Harvard Alumni Magazine, Cambridge. Massachusetts
2007 The Time 100, voted by the editors of Time Magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the world |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:19:07 PM
Neil DeGrasse Tyson is the director of the Hayden Planetarium.
Hardly finding the cure for cancer, is it? I mean really, for a supposedly-accomplished scientist, is running a planetarium (the sort of place you take city kids to show them what the sky is like out in the country) really all that? It's marginally more impressive than the 'achievements' for which Obama won his Nobel Prize, I suppose, but that's not saying very much.
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:14:11 PM
Why the scathing characterization of DeGrassi?
I'm not sure IF that question was for me, but IF so ( ), my comments come from the fact that he's a self-publicising blowhard that doesn't appear to do anything all that useful himself. There's a difference between having opinions and even being interviewed as a talking head, and actually going out of your way to seek attention by constantly publishing ever minutiae of your life on Twitter and making YouTube videos that are monologues about your views on abstract topics such as atheism. The latter behaviour is what you expect of Jenna Marbles, not of a supposedly intelligent and respected scientist.
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Idlerlee2
Male, 18-29, Europe
135 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:07:28 PM
@MacGuffin
Neil DeGrasse Tyson is the director of the Hayden Planetarium.
He has his own office. So probably not sitting next to anyones desk. Yet he is incredibly respected by his peers.
What was the point of your post other than to throw out some half asses assumption that anyone who has a certain flavor with their wordings are indeed self absorbed and totally not like yourself ? |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:06:37 PM
You have to admit MG, he was just holding the door open for you as you marched straight through it
No, I saw it coming. Hence my use of that small but important qualifying word "if" at the start of my post. ;) |
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 JonasQuim
Male, 18-29, Europe
112 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 11:32:23 AM
Love this guy, the closest America has to a Stephen Fry? |
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Suicism
Male, 18-29, Western US
3533 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 10:13:40 AM
Gerry you got her - just call it a day!
You have to admit MG, he was just holding the door open for you as you marched straight through it
Why the scathing characterization of DeGrassi? |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25531 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 8:26:05 AM
@ MacGuffin, no I wasn't implying you state opinions. That is an obvious
fact not in dispute. And you are correct, we all do here.
No, that is not what was implied. |
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 DethRose
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
273 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:24:37 AM
Sorry guys, my Science Guy will always be Bill Nye. |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:20:13 AM
Oh, I think most of us here could understand that feeling.
Lord, you make it too easy for me sometimes.
LOL!
If you're implying that I myself express opinions on here, then of course I do - this is an internet forum and not RL. That's what forums are for. That's what we all do here all the time. There's a difference between having an opinion in a forum where opinions are sought, and foisting unsolicited opinions about situations that don't affect you upon other people in RL. The guy I'm talking about would happily come up and tell you how he thought the work you'd been assigned should be done. He was, in short, a prize twat that nobody liked. The saddest memory I have of him is him going around the office on his birthday, trying to persuade people to come go-karting with him to celebrate it, and everybody made their excuses because nobody wanted to spend time with somebody that self-absorbed, vain and arrogant. I wonder if NDT goes solo go-karting?
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25531 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 7:00:47 AM
MacGuffin, "Can you imagine working with someone that self-abosorbed, vain and cursed with just enough abstract intelligence to make both of those qualities even worse? "
Oh, I think most of us here could understand that feeling.
Lord, you make it too easy for me sometimes.
LOL! |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:15:32 AM
YEAAAAAAAAAH!
Branching out into more considered commentary, 8-bit? |
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MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
2597 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:14:41 AM
Can you imagine working with someone that self-abosorbed, vain and cursed with just enough abstract intelligence to make both of those qualities even worse? He'd waste your time constantly by talking at you and telling you fifteen ways you didn't need or want to know how to do even the simplest task, then stand there with a smug look that says "Aren't I clever? Sorry you don't have time to do that thing you were meant to do now". Come to think of it, I *have* worked with someone exactly like that. They made him sit in a separate room on his own in the end. I wonder how far NDT's desk is from any of his colleagues'? |
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 8BitHero
Male, 18-29, Europe
5417 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:14:07 AM
YEAAAAAAAAAH! |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16871 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 6:09:27 AM
Reclassifying Pluto and Pluto-like objects was the most sensible thing to do
NOOOO! They be stealin mah planet!
But @HiEv is correct: It's the only solution that makes sense. |
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Female, 18-29, Eastern US
13 Posts
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 Thonious
Male, 40-49, Western US
571 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 5:37:49 AM
I want the poster! |
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 Revolutioniz
Male, 18-29, Western US
914 Posts
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Saturday, July 14, 2012 2:43:31 AM
I don't get why people keep calling him an attention whore. He does something, and everyone posts and talks about it. It's people like you guys posting him and bringing him up that give this attention. Not like he's asking to be posted on these sites.. |
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 Buiadh
Male, 18-29, Europe
6650 Posts
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Friday, July 13, 2012 11:37:03 PM
He's much too intelligent for POTUS. |
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HiEv
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
384 Posts
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Friday, July 13, 2012 11:29:58 PM
@Mad_Gremlyn: You say that like there's something bad about that.
As far as Pluto goes, either Pluto is not a planet, or Pluto and a bunch of other similarly sized objects (including some we will probably find in the future) are *all* planets. Things just get crazy if you start accepting all Pluto and greater sized objects as planets (plus that's a pretty arbitrary point to pick), and it just gets silly if you make an exception for one particular rock for purely historical/sentimental reasons.
Reclassifying Pluto and Pluto-like objects was the most sensible thing to do. |
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